yo guys, I know how Odin will return to greatness!!!
it will be epic asf, the most legendary return EVER
Last edited by GodThor; 02-21-2019 at 05:57 PM.
Were is that picture from? sorry but it looks so stupid.....what use could odin an freya have for a gatling gun and rifles?
Ommadon: “By summoning all the dark powers I will infest the spirit of man So that he uses his science and logic to destroy himself. Greed and avarice shall prevail, and those who do not hear my words shall pay the price. I'll teach man to use his machines, I'll show him what distorted science can give birth to. I'll teach him to fly like a fairy, and I'll give him the ultimate answer to all his science can ask. And the world will be free for my magic again.”
Yeah, I think Jurgens is a good writer but his run didn't thrill me as much as I hoped it would, certainly not the worst, though. The John Romita Jr. art was the definite plus side.
On the subject of the films I personally felt them underwhelming. The armor/costumes looked really plasticy. I felt Sif was way too skinny. She is supposed to be a goddess. I remember some old stories where the Asgard women would be seen almost towering over the normal humans while the actress looked smaller than some human heroes. The X-Men had just come out in theaters and I was watching the LotRs films and I was thinking it was a matter of time before more Marvel movies were made so naturally I thought of Thor while watching it. I thought to myself, I would love armor similar to this and the general feel. It just did not feel like the world of gods. I also didn't "feel" Hemsworths Thor. He should have been perfect but he just seemed to have fallen flat. Admittedly, I only saw the first one and when I saw the preview for the third I was happy they would bring in humor because I loved Walt Simonson's more humorous scenes in his run but we got more humor that was over the top. I thought we'd get more subtle humor with Grandmaster. I was thinking more Batman and Robin by Joel Schumacer rather than Thor when I saw it. Last but not least I felt it needed to be a half hour longer, a story with this epic scale and this many characters needs a lot more time. Cate Blanchett, however, was brilliant casting. She has the charisma and acting chops to pull it off and the transition from Galadriel to Hela was a natural thing. I would see it just for her. I do still plan on seeing the others, eventually.
Also... no Balder? WTAF???
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The only part of this I disagree with is ‘old fans and new’. The reality from my experience here is conflict between old fans and other old fans. Some accepting the inevitable change and some just wanting everything to stay the same. This inherent conservatism in tastes that some people express is perhaps more prevalent in older fans but it is still a minority in my opinion. Grumpy fans cluster together naturally. It is human nature to gravitate to those who validate your world view. Internet forums are not where younger fans hang out. Some do but the demographic is skewed in places like this.
People like me, who are older and have come back to comics purely because the current era feels more inclusive and less stifled by the weight of accumulated canon, than anything from the previous three decades, will naturally have more in common with newer fans. We are here for the same reason, the sheer fun of it all. Sometimes I think fandom causes us to forget how to have fun.
But the most telling thing is how people who are positive and accepting of change are challenged forcefully, both directly and indirectly. Not everyone wants to argue. Younger fans are less likely to stand and argue if the person arguing with them has been reading a property for decades. That has to be intimidating.
For people like myself, who have read almost everything, and also embrace change, the rhetorical strategy used by disgruntled fans is immediately apparent. I watch as older fans cherry pick from the past, twist the nature of older stories to support their thesis, downplay the huge variety in the canon, or ignore established parts of canon that are still in play just because they don’t like it (or just haven’t read it recently and have forgotten).
In general long term disgruntled fans tend to cheat in arguments. Pretend that the whole of canon was somehow perfect and simple, and only the new thing is somehow invalid. Some of this may be unconscious bias. Comics have been conservative in their output for so long it is perhaps inevitable that it feels like how things should be for some. For me and it seems the current writers and editors, this inherent conservatism is everything that is wrong with comics.
Last edited by JKtheMac; 02-23-2019 at 02:04 AM.
Just noticed there are some great bargains to be had on a wide variety of Thor trades on ComiXology until tomorrow.