Thor Odinson, God of Thunder Appreciation 2019

[kilderkin]

He's not to blame. His Thor is serious, intelligent and driven. After his time on earth, he's the serious Thor we all know from comics.

The problem is that the MCU doesn't want to really address magic, or Gods. It's more grounded than comics are, which combine every genre.

So instead, we have a serious Thor in unserious situations.

The Thor written by Aaron in avengers is very much the MCU Thor of Thor Ragnarok

[CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree]

He's not to blame. His Thor is serious, intelligent and driven. After his time on earth, he's the serious Thor we all know from comics.

The problem is that the MCU doesn't want to really address magic, or Gods. It's more grounded than comics are, which combine every genre.

So instead, we have a serious Thor in unserious situations.

Doctor Strange says hi.

[Frontier]

He's not to blame. His Thor is serious, intelligent and driven. After his time on earth, he's the serious Thor we all know from comics.

Moreso in in the first two Avengers films, Dark World, and Infinity War then, say, Endgame or even Ragnarok.

[The Cool Thatguy]

The Thor written by Aaron in avengers is very much the MCU Thor of Thor Ragnarok

No, he's Hercules.

Hell, that story where Thor falls in love in love with a mortal, leaves for decades only to return and find that she's dead? Herc did that back in the 80s, in his mini series (only there, it wasnt an entire issue)

Doctor Strange says hi.

Dr. Strange, the movie that drilled the fact that magic is programming? That left no trace of spirituality in magic?

Hell, look at Dark World. It aggressively went against the idea that they were Gods, until the next movie came around

[kilderkin]

No, he's Hercules.

Hell, that story where Thor falls in love in love with a mortal, leaves for decades only to return and find that she's dead? Herc did that back in the 80s, in his mini series (only there, it wasnt an entire issue)



Dr. Strange, the movie that drilled the fact that magic is programming? That left no trace of spirituality in magic?

Hell, look at Dark World. It aggressively went against the idea that they were Gods, until the next movie came around

He is the Thor from Ragnarok

Who is written like Hercules

Was my point

[The Cool Thatguy]

He is the Thor from Ragnarok

Who is written like Hercules

Was my point

Again, Thor in the movies is always written as serious and mindful of his responsibilities, even in Ragnarok.

Aaron's Thor is Herc from the comics, who enjoys fights for fights sake, struggles with responsibility and is more a good natured Frat boy than anything else. Hell, half the time, I think I'm reading Grek Pak's Herc, minus the humor

[kilderkin]

Again, Thor in the movies is always written as serious and mindful of his responsibilities, even in Ragnarok.

Aaron's Thor is Herc from the comics, who enjoys fights for fights sake, struggles with responsibility and is more a good natured Frat boy than anything else. Hell, half the time, I think I'm reading Grek Pak's Herc, minus the humor

I really don't see Thor in the film's as always serious and mindful, certainly the first one explored that he was being too cocky to be serious and such enough, but really that nitpicky

I certainly agree with you about the Hercules comparison, it's something I said long ago

My biggest irrigation with it is if we do see a Hercules MCU he will likely be very different to compensate for this

I'm not sure if he's in the eternals film as I heard rumours

[The Cool Thatguy]

I really don't see Thor in the film's as always serious and mindful, certainly the first one explored that he was being too cocky to be serious and such enough, but really that nitpicky

Well, I meant after his brief exile

And yeah, Thor knows how to relax. But he knows the importance of their battles. in Age of Ultron, when they're fighting Hydra and are convinced that they've found Loki's staff, Thor doesn't bemoan the fact that this'll be the last fight, but is glad that its finally done. In Ragnarok, he tried to talk Hulk down first

Herc fights for a fight, leads with his head and is a Frat boy, nice guy and hero, in that order. That's not MCU Thor, and wasn't comics Thor until Aaron

[Frontier]

Hell, that story where Thor falls in love in love with a mortal, leaves for decades only to return and find that she's dead? Herc did that back in the 80s, in his mini series (only there, it wasnt an entire issue)

I think Paul Jenkins did the exact same story as a Thor one-shot.

Hell, look at Dark World. It aggressively went against the idea that they were Gods, until the next movie came around

Wasn't that also the movie where Jane figured out Asgardian magic because of her science background?

The MCU's always been super inconsistent about it.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Wasn't that also the movie where Jane figured out Asgaridan magic because of her science background?

The MCU's always been super inconsistent about it.

Yeah, she recognized some piece of magic as tech...tech that didn't exist on earth, so who knows how she recognized it :P

[Frontier]

Yeah, she recognized some piece of magic as tech...tech that didn't exist on earth, so who knows how she recognized it :P

That wacky Jane Foster .

[CaptainMar-Vell92 of the Kree]

Yeah, she recognized some piece of magic as tech...tech that didn't exist on earth, so who knows how she recognized it :P

Dark world was a real mess.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Dark world was a real mess.

Thor's mythos is a mess, really. If Thor's hammer is technology does that mean a program determines who's worthy? Is it just a really advanced google?

[Agent Z]

No, he's Hercules.

Hell, that story where Thor falls in love in love with a mortal, leaves for decades only to return and find that she's dead? Herc did that back in the 80s, in his mini series (only there, it wasnt an entire issue)



Dr. Strange, the movie that drilled the fact that magic is programming? That left no trace of spirituality in magic?

Hell, look at Dark World. It aggressively went against the idea that they were Gods, until the next movie came around

Seemed to me that this was more about establishing rules to magic that made it more understandable. One of the biggest issues with magic in fiction, particularly superhero settings, is that it's vagueness means it can be an easily abused deus ex machina. It should also be remembered that the pov character for Dr Strange is a man who has existed in a world of hard logic and facts. Telling him that magic is programming is probably the best way to sell him on it.

[kilderkin]

Seemed to me that this was more about establishing rules to magic that made it more understandable. One of the biggest issues with magic in fiction, particularly superhero settings, is that it's vagueness means it can be an easily abused deus ex machina. It should also be remembered that the pov character for Dr Strange is a man who has existed in a world of hard logic and facts. Telling him that magic is programming is probably the best way to sell him on it.

I actually think that's what the ancient one said to him in a roundabout way