Thor Odinson, God of Thunder Appreciation 2019

[Del torro]

Couldn't agree more.
I don't need Marvel to recreate the Norse myths, but I wish the books actually felt more like the came from the same mythic world. I knew when bat-winged tigers and flowery candy realms started showing up things were going to get bad lol.

:] I liked the tigers. They're pretty cool

[JKtheMac]

damn man, time to get reeducated by JKtheMac

I wouldn't be in your place right now.

just joking

I have nothing against people being nostalgic. I just don’t think this is how modern comics work, and personally prefer modern comics.

[GodThor]

Since War of The Realms is Aaron's Big Finale on Asgard lore,whaat do you guys think will come after

-Hickman? There's been rumors on him coming back to write X-Men, it would be interesting to see what he does with Thor. Plus I think they'd give him Ribic

-Ewing? I feel that after Aaron, he's going to take on the reins of Thor (or avengers maybe, though that's doubtful, Aaron just started avengers), his take on Thor would be interesting to see

-I don't think they would give Cullen Bunn. I love him, and I'm enjoying Asgardians of the Galaxy, but I don't think he has the draw


What do you guys think

Hickman and Ewing would be my choice but I have a feeling we will get someone else entirely.

-or Thor dies in Endgame, and comic book Thor dies in War of Realms to tie in kind of

Odin will die.

in fact, he should impale himself with Gungnir and be done with it.

I can't look at him anymore.

[JKtheMac]

Since War of The Realms is Aaron's Big Finale on Asgard lore,whaat do you guys think will come after

-Hickman? There's been rumors on him coming back to write X-Men, it would be interesting to see what he does with Thor. Plus I think they'd give him Ribic

-Ewing? I feel that after Aaron, he's going to take on the reins of Thor (or avengers maybe, though that's doubtful, Aaron just started avengers), his take on Thor would be interesting to see

-I don't think they would give Cullen Bunn. I love him, and I'm enjoying Asgardians of the Galaxy, but I don't think he has the draw

-or Thor dies in Endgame, and comic book Thor dies in War of Realms to tie in kind of

What do you guys think

You can find thoughts on this higher. My preference would be Tom Taylor, if he has any interest in the character.

[Daedra]

As a lifelong fan of mythology myself this tells me one thing. Clearly being a lifelong mythology fan doesn’t come with one specific mindset on how stories should be, which is kind of obvious I suppose.

Your idea of mythology in comics is clearly at odds with mine.

yhea whenever I post something I'm expressing my personal subjective views, just like everybody else, I made it very clear that's how I felt, what else is new?

[JKtheMac]

yhea whenever I post something I'm expressing my personal subjective views, just like everybody else, I made it very clear that's how I felt, what else is new?

From my perspective it looked like you were trying to suggest that your perspective on mythology implied more than a subjective view. If that's not the case then fair enough. I was pointing out a truism not attacking you, just challenging that apparent assertion. You appear to agree with the truism at least.

I am more interested to know why your perspective on mythology is somehow so anathema to their current portrayal that you would see them in such a negative way. Especially given the long history of these characters being portrayed in many and varied ways.

[Daedra]

From my perspective it looked like you were trying to suggest that your perspective on mythology implied more than a subjective view. If that's not the case then fair enough. I was pointing out a truism not attacking you, just challenging that apparent assertion. You appear to agree with the truism at least.

I am more interested to know why your perspective on mythology is somehow so anathema to their current portrayal that you would see them in such a negative way. Especially given the long history of these characters being portrayed in many and varied ways.

well I was responding to a poster that found (in the current writing) similarities between zeus-hera and odin-freya, I think that writing odin as a norse zeus it's really a disservice to the character, If we can put aside their positions as god-heads of their respective pantheons, the 2 gods could not be more different, as a matter of fact in comparative mythology odin's greco-roman analogue is considered to be Mercury/hermes as they are both wandering gods-gods of magic- psychopomps etc, also they cover the same day of the week "wednesday", odin is a grim god, more intellectual, thoughtful and somber than Zeus as ever been. Huginn and Muninn the 2 crows of odin represent thought & memory/mind, they are extensions of the god, they symbolize the connection of the divinity to deep shamanistic powers and introspective approach to life...... but talking of current portrayals I just feel like all the nuance surrounding Odin as god has been written away, all there is left is a drunk fool and a misogynist passed by his family and kingdom.

[JKtheMac]

I am not a fan of comparative mythology myself. But I am familiar with it. But surely there just isn’t enough Norse mythology to truely decide if these kinds of comparisons are valid?

[theoneandonly]

No, by that point. was speaking generally not about your reaction which I found quite witty. Only my first sentence was actually addressed to you directly. The rest is based on what people moaned about when Mjölnir was sent into the sun to its death and comparing it to that inevitable negativity now.

yeah I could tell hence the smileys. it's all good.

[Daedra]

I am not a fan of comparative mythology myself. But I am familiar with it. But surely there just isn’t enough Norse mythology to truely decide if these kinds of comparisons are valid?

the first such comparison was expressed by Tacitus a roman historian ...... but my point is that I just don't think we need another Zeus cosplaying as Odin, why not let odin be odin?

[Frontier]

simply badass.

Aaron didn't read much of Thor's comics.

he is also a frightened boy who needs to be cradled by his mommy...

I miss this Thor.

[JKtheMac]

the first such comparison was expressed by Tacitus a roman historian ...... but my point is that I just don't think we need another Zeus cosplaying as Odin, why not let odin be odin?

If academics argue about who Odin was and what he represents, and they do endlessly, why do you think comics would be any clearer? Do you have some specialist knowledge that the rest of us don’t have about who Odin was?

What we know for certain is fragmented. What the public think they know is mostly bad eighteenth and nineteenth century nonsense based on conflating him with Germanic lore, entirely made up Scandinavian nation building, and British imagination during a romanticised age.

I can only go by recent scholastic thought and believe it or not, some of that is genuinely reflected in Aaron’s Odin. That might be coincidence but to be honest he knows as much about Odin as anyone else does. Odin is a complete mystery.

[Daedra]

I can only go by recent scholastic thought and believe it or not, some of that is genuinely reflected in Aaron’s Odin. That might be coincidence but to be honest he knows as much about Odin as anyone else does. Odin is a complete mystery.

......and with this I think the discussion has taken a comedic turn, just lost any appetite I had for this exchange of opinions, let it just be another thing we don see eye to eye.

[JKtheMac]

......and with this I think the discussion has taken a comedic turn, just lost any appetite I had for this exchange of opinions, let it just be another thing we don see eye to eye.

Well fair enough but I stand by the key fact that Odin is not easily defined. You may find this amusing but an awfully long list of serious academic papers have failed to agree on this.

[GodThor]

I miss this Thor.

yeah, we will never have him again.