Kyle Rayner Appreciation 2019

[married guy]

Been reading sinastro corps war this is my favourite part no doubt I miss those 4 together.

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Geoff Johns was REALLY at the top of his game during this time.
A massive, multi-issue story that was actually GOOD.

[Frontier]

Been reading sinastro corps war this is my favourite part no doubt I miss those 4 together.

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Same here .

Not to mention the fight with Sinestro at the end .

[Sodam Yat]

To tell you the truth it felt really forced for some reason.

Because it was. John and Guy were supposed to be best friends under Peter Tomasi. But his handling on the dynamic with those characters wasn’t handled well imo. They never seemed like best friends to me. Probably the only interesting dynamic I’ve seen with those two characters was when John guest starred in Red Lanterns and Lost Army.

edit: I typed with my phone

[Frontier]

Because it was. John and Guy were supposed to be best friends under Peter Tomasi. But his handling on the dynamic with those characters wasn’t handled well imo. They never seemed like best friends to me. Probably the only interesting dynamic I’ve seen with those two characters was when John guest starred in Red Lanterns and Lost Army.

I liked how Venditti handled their dynamic but it did annoy me how much they downplayed Kyle and Guy's relationship to do it.

[LP22]

I liked how Venditti handled their dynamic but it did annoy me how much they downplayed Kyle and Guy's relationship to do it.

True but at least we got great dynamic between Hal and Kyle.

[Johnny]

[Rac7d*]

Does Kyle speak spanish

[Frontier]

What do Simon and Kyle have in common? Being the "special snowflake" made from an unlikely choice under extreme circumstances.

Does Kyle speak spanish

I honestly can't recall a single panel where Kyle spoke Spanish.

Makes me wonder if they might emphasize that more in a media adaption like they do with Blue Beetle.

[Rac7d*]

What do Simon and Kyle have in common? Being the "special snowflake" made from an unlikely choice under extreme circumstances.

I honestly can't recall a single panel where Kyle spoke Spanish.

Makes me wonder if they might emphasize that more in a media adaption like they do with Blue Beetle.

well we know Jamie is raised in that kind of household

I dont know how Kyle Lives when he is of duty

[LP22]

He did in omega men and heroes in crisis both are tom king comics

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[Lirica]

Does Kyle speak spanish

Pretty much only when Tom King writes him tbh

I honestly can't recall a single panel where Kyle spoke Spanish.

Makes me wonder if they might emphasize that more in a media adaption like they do with Blue Beetle.

I wouldn't mind if it's ever emphasized in a media adaption. I just prefer that it's incorporated through the 'meeting his father as an adult and wants to learn more about him and that side of his family' angle.

[phantom1592]

This is one of my problems with people using Kyle as some kind of 'representation'. The Hispanic influence was a retcon. He didn't know his father, he wasn't raised Hispanic. it was never a part of his character. His mother was Irish. He was young. He was an artist. He was 'hip' and creative... but Hispanic? That didn't become a thing until someone MADE it a thing...

For PoC looking for a character to represent their culture and attitudes... Kyle was never it.

[Vampire Savior]

I always disliked that retcon and I try to ignore it as best I can. Hispanic superheroes are fine and dandy, but putting that on a well established character that wasn't meant to have it is...strange, intrusive, and kind of lazy, especially when he's retconned as a Spanish speaker. That wasn't Kyle's upbringing and to suggest it was is just doing a disservice to the character. It's just another example of when representation goes wrong. Some act like ALL diversity is GOOD diversity, but that isn't really the case. People often do dumb stuff in the name of seemingly noble causes. The best thing to do would be to create a new hispanic character, or make better use of ones that were already available.

[Lirica]

^ That's pretty much why I dislike King's interpretation of "remembering" Kyle's half Mexican.

I know not everyone likes the retcon, but personally, I don't mind it. I don't really recall Winnick trying to play it like oh hey he's half Latino and can now suddenly speak fluent Spanish (though it has been a while tbh). I can believe Kyle having lived in LA and NYC may know some Spanish words, though, but that's it.

[Rac7d*]

I always disliked that retcon and I try to ignore it as best I can. Hispanic superheroes are fine and dandy, but putting that on a well established character that wasn't meant to have it is...strange, intrusive, and kind of lazy, especially when he's retconned as a Spanish speaker. That wasn't Kyle's upbringing and to suggest it was is just doing a disservice to the character. It's just another example of when representation goes wrong. Some act like ALL diversity is GOOD diversity, but that isn't really the case. People often do dumb stuff in the name of seemingly noble causes. The best thing to do would be to create a new hispanic character, or make better use of ones that were already available.

That what I feel about Dick grayson being Romanian