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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I can live with Arthur being shirtless for an arc, but please just give him back the scalemail. And the tattoos do feel just tacked on for movie synergy.
    Give it time, we'll go back to the shirt and shave in a few years, then cycle back to the viking look. It comes in waves.

    I'm only semi-sorry for the pun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    Give it time, we'll go back to the shirt and shave in a few years, then cycle back to the viking look. It comes in waves.

    I'm only semi-sorry for the pun!
    I think the scalemail will come back, but I'm not sure if I'd count on a shave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I think the scalemail will come back, but I'm not sure if I'd count on a shave.
    I'm certain it will eventually. Don't forget that a while ago, "cool" for Arthur was long hair, a hook hand, being estranged from his...

    Well if he loses the hand, I riot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robanker View Post
    I'm certain it will eventually. Don't forget that a while ago, "cool" for Arthur was long hair, a hook hand, being estranged from his...

    Well if he loses the hand, I riot.
    Oh yeah, unless it's an AU or a dark future, I don't need to see the hook hand again .

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    I miss short hair/no beard/orange-shirt/noble king Aquaman. The character really does not feel like himself right now, and hasn't since the end of Drowned.
    "Why do the trunks not "hold up with the times"? What exactly is the problem with them? And don't tell me "nobody wears them" because nobody dresses in a blue body suit and red cape and boots either.

    It's a superhero costume. It's the original superhero costume. It's not real clothing, it's not bound to the ever-changing fashion trends of real life. It's nothing like real life clothing. How exactly can it become outdated?"

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    I will say that if we're going for a Mariner Arthur, the hair and beard work. They're good for showing movement and water weight, which can really add atmosphere to a page. It worked very well for him in this month's issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I can live with Arthur being shirtless for an arc, but please just give him back the scalemail. And the tattoos do feel just tacked on for movie synergy.
    I don't think the scalemail is gone, he just hasn't had much need for it yet; he'll don his suit when he goes full Aquaman. I don't mind the tattoos, it's movie synergy sure but i dig the giving Aquaman that aesthetic distinction from the typical superhero™ type. plus if they were gonna take anything from Aquaman (2018) I think adding some polynesian/islander flavor to Aquaman makes about as much sense (if not more) as all the "King Arthur" knights of the sea overtones attached to Aquaman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonpeace View Post
    I don't think the scalemail is gone, he just hasn't had much need for it yet; he'll don his suit when he goes full Aquaman. I don't mind the tattoos, it's movie synergy sure but i dig the giving Aquaman that aesthetic distinction from the typical superhero™ type. plus if they were gonna take anything from Aquaman (2018) I think adding some polynesian/islander flavor to Aquaman makes about as much sense (if not more) as all the "King Arthur" knights of the sea overtones attached to Aquaman.
    I mean, if he actually looked more like Jason Momoa the tattoos would make sense. I don't think they've retconned Tom Curry into Temerua Morrison yet so he doesn't have the ancestry to where I think the tattoos would be appropriate or more sense then the "King Arthur" nods.

    I guess it also bothers me that to keep it relevant relies on him continually being shirtless instead of wearing his actual costume .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I mean, if he actually looked more like Jason Momoa the tattoos would make sense. I don't think they've retconned Tom Curry into Temerua Morrison yet so he doesn't have the ancestry to where I think the tattoos would be appropriate or more sense then the "King Arthur" nods.

    I guess it also bothers me that to keep it relevant relies on him continually being shirtless instead of wearing his actual costume .
    he received the tattoo from a Maori God of the Sea as a show of respect and gratitude, they don't need to make Tom Curry explicitly polynesian (although, admittedly, I'd be down with that) for it to have meaning so long as it respectfully serves the same cultural relevance. Granted I do agree, it would've been better if they made his tats more explicitly like Momoa's in the movie but still I think it being bestowed by a being from Maori culture makes more sense than this underwater people evolving to mirror coincidentally knights and King Arthur motifs and such.

    Lol I can see the shirtless complaint but hey man, I kinda like the more lax surfer bro vibe he's got going. I think once he's back in full swing of being Aquaman there'll be more of an equilibrium between him shirtless, him being in civvies, and him in the scalemail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonpeace View Post
    he received the tattoo from a Maori God of the Sea as a show of respect and gratitude, they don't need to make Tom Curry explicitly polynesian (although, admittedly, I'd be down with that) for it to have meaning so long as it respectfully serves the same cultural relevance. Granted I do agree, it would've been better if they made his tats more explicitly like Momoa's in the movie but still I think it being bestowed by a being from Maori culture makes more sense than this underwater people evolving to mirror coincidentally knights and King Arthur motifs and such.
    I just don't think it fits for him to be sporting Polynesian or Maoi-esque tatoos when he really doesn't look the part. If he actually resembled Momoa more it would fit better in my opinion.

    I mean, it just seems like something that's more rooted in Momoa's culture, while with the King Arthur stuff you've got an ancient kingdom and a one true king who takes over and leads the kingdom to a new age. Although to be honest the King Arthur motift has never been all that big beyond Arthur's name and character status.
    Lol I can see the shirtless complaint but hey man, I kinda like the more lax surfer bro vibe he's got going. I think once he's back in full swing of being Aquaman there'll be more of an equilibrium between him shirtless, him being in civvies, and him in the scalemail.
    To be honest, reading the first arc, I don't get that vibe at all. He seems kind of normal beyond just being disoriented from not having his memories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I just don't think it fits for him to be sporting Polynesian or Maoi-esque tatoos when he really doesn't look the part. If he actually resembled Momoa more it would fit better in my opinion.

    I mean, it just seems like something that's more rooted in Momoa's culture, while with the King Arthur stuff you've got an ancient kingdom and a one true king who takes over and leads the kingdom to a new age. Although to be honest the King Arthur motift has never been all that big beyond Arthur's name and character status.
    eh, the heavy bulky knights in sea-armor and the sword & sorcery elements infused into the character in the 90s (they literally had the lady of the lake from Arthurian lore in Aquaman's stories before) feel more egregious than the Maori tats to me. I feel islander culture just makes more sense for an aquatic hero than the medieval angle. If they went full Momoa the fanboys would lose their mind, I don't think they needed to go that radical to justify the tattoos; earning the tattoos from the Maori felt like it was enough. Yes, expanding his tattoos were definitely something make give his Aquaman more of a personal touch for Momoa, I just don't think it's something that is all that tacked on or so egregious of a change.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    To be honest, reading the first arc, I don't get that vibe at all. He seems kind of normal beyond just being disoriented from not having his memories.
    The first arc, with the Old Gods, he's definitely more disoriented than anything else but once he meets Mother Shark and goes back to Amnesty Bay he's not necessarily stereotypically bro-y but he's got a more care-free thoughtful everyman kind of feel to him. I'd say more like a kindly beach bum than an obnoxious surfer bro. I definitely think it's supposed to be representative of a weight being off of his shoulders since leaving the thrones and rediscovering who he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonpeace View Post
    eh, the heavy bulky knights in sea-armor and the sword & sorcery elements infused into the character in the 90s (they literally had the lady of the lake from Arthurian lore in Aquaman's stories before) feel more egregious than the Maori tats to me. I feel islander culture just makes more sense for an aquatic hero than the medieval angle. If they went full Momoa the fanboys would lose their mind, I don't think they needed to go that radical to justify the tattoos; earning the tattoos from the Maori felt like it was enough. Yes, expanding his tattoos were definitely something make give his Aquaman more of a personal touch for Momoa, I just don't think it's something that is all that tacked on or so egregious of a change.
    Islander culture feels like it would make more sense if Aquaman was actually part of that culture. Even if a Maori god gave it to him it will probably still seem like cultural appropriation to a layman since Aquaman is culturally not part of that and doesn't look the part beyond the tats.

    Personally I think the King Arthur stuff fits Aquaman conceptually more since it lends to his kind of stories and characterization, but that's just me.
    The first arc, with the Old Gods, he's definitely more disoriented than anything else but once he meets Mother Shark and goes back to Amnesty Bay he's not necessarily stereotypically bro-y but he's got a more care-free thoughtful everyman kind of feel to him. I'd say more like a kindly beach bum than an obnoxious surfer bro. I definitely think it's supposed to be representative of a weight being off of his shoulders since leaving the thrones and rediscovering who he is.
    I guess I'll have to read the next arcs to truly "hear" DeConnick's voice for Arthur.

    Man, this makes me feel bad for when he inevitably has to be king again .

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    Has anyone read Aquaman sword of Atlantis? The one where he teams up with King Shark. I’m trying to track it down but I can only find it on the dc comics app. Is it worth getting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvermoth View Post
    Has anyone read Aquaman sword of Atlantis? The one where he teams up with King Shark. I’m trying to track it down but I can only find it on the dc comics app. Is it worth getting?
    It didn't do it for me, but to be fair, it's not actually Arthur. DC wanted to replace Arthur with... Arthur Joseph Curry! He wasn't Orin, he was Arthur! They also looked the same, but Orin was still part of the plot? It seemed like DC was unsure what they wanted to do to bring people back to Aquaman.

    I don't blame the creative team involved, it really does feel like editorial made a status quo and put talented people on it, but they didn't have much to work with.

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    Ah I see. Very random choice

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