AKA FlashFreak
Favorite Characters:
DC: The Flash (Jay & Wally), Starman- Jack Knight, Stargirl, & Shazam!.
MARVEL: Daredevil, Spider-Man (Peter Parker), & Doctor Strange.
Current Pulls: Not a thing!
My name is Wally West. I"m the fastest man alive. I"m the Flash.
Favorite Heroes - 1-Flash/Wally West, 2-Superman, 3-Green Lantern/Hal Jordan, 4-Nightwing, 5-Hawkman, 6-Firestorm, 7-Supergirl/Linda Danvers, 8-Zatanna, 9-Robin/Tim Drake
I will have to add this issue to hunt down for my collection. Good ole Mark Waid. Thanks Major!
AKA FlashFreak
Favorite Characters:
DC: The Flash (Jay & Wally), Starman- Jack Knight, Stargirl, & Shazam!.
MARVEL: Daredevil, Spider-Man (Peter Parker), & Doctor Strange.
Current Pulls: Not a thing!
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My name is Wally West. I"m the fastest man alive. I"m the Flash.
Favorite Heroes - 1-Flash/Wally West, 2-Superman, 3-Green Lantern/Hal Jordan, 4-Nightwing, 5-Hawkman, 6-Firestorm, 7-Supergirl/Linda Danvers, 8-Zatanna, 9-Robin/Tim Drake
My name is Wally West. I"m the fastest man alive. I"m the Flash.
Favorite Heroes - 1-Flash/Wally West, 2-Superman, 3-Green Lantern/Hal Jordan, 4-Nightwing, 5-Hawkman, 6-Firestorm, 7-Supergirl/Linda Danvers, 8-Zatanna, 9-Robin/Tim Drake
"My name is Wally West. I'm the fastest man alive!"
I'll try being nicer if you try being smarter.
I'm currently rereading my old comics, and working through the early post-Crisis stuff now. I just recently reread the first few issues of Justice League (International), where Batman was completely in charge, and punched out Guy Gardner to prove it. So seeing him take orders from Jay is quite the contrast. But it's also perfectly in character, in both cases. Batman's a pretty good judge of character, and gave both Guy and Jay exactly as much respect as they deserved.
So speaking of that early post-Crisis time period, where was Jay during that time period? At the end of Crisis, Jay and Joan Garrick are shown to exist on the newly merged DCU Earth. But I just read Secret Origins Annual #2, featuring the origins of Wally West and Barry Allen, and Wally mentions that Jay is "gone". What happened to him? I know he comes back later, as I remember that he was around during Mark Waid's Flash run, such as those pages posted earlier in this thread from The Return of Barry Allen storyline. But since I started reading comics in the early 90s, and only have back issues of certain things from the 80s, I feel like I'm missing out on details here and there.
Of all the Flash i like Jay's design the best.
There is something about that helmet.
I kind of loved that run. So many fun interactions throughout. This is the DC stuff I live for. Jay admitting his age and showing enthusiasm for naps was really fun.
Superman being respectful of Gordon (making the latter question if Metropolis needs a new commissioner)? Pure joy.
Ordway killed that issue and made me wish he didn't just bomb in for that instance and that he and Waid would do more together. Especially among newer fans, he is criminally underrated. It also was more evidence that Jay is a wonderful character who never gets enough appreciation. Rebirth has been poorer for his absence.
Your comment actually gave me an idea. I also really like Jays design and love that it's modeled after Hermes which is very different.
What if you made the three main Flashs, Jay Barry and Wally, have different origins and different sources of their powers. They would all still be called the Flash and have super speed as their primary power but their source of their powers and origin would give them.their own unique themes.
Jay His look is modeled after Hermes so run with that. (Pun not intended ) He got his powers from the Greek or Roman diety and his powers come from them and are magic based. Hard water gas giving him super speed is kinda strange but you could work.it that that made him lose unconsciousness and from there had a meeting with Hermes. You can even have it similar to his close buddy Alan Scott in that although they have similar names to their counterparts their powers come from magic based sources.
Jays theme is ancient magic. Borrowing some thematic elements from wonder woman and hawkman.
Barry His powers have no supernatural base. He is not connected to the speed force. His origin and power source is exactly how it was originally. Purely a freak accident and based on science. His mind set is firmly set in this. He views his powers and deals with them strictly through science and logic with his Flash facts.
Barry's theme is science and cold hard facts. He fights science based villains like the rouges.
Wally Wally gets his powers from the speed force. Fitting as it came out originally through him. He still got his powers through a bolt of lightning but there were no chemicals involved and no lab. It was because it was his destiny and he was chosen. It was his is dream.to always be a hero and his wish fullfillment as well. His powers are spiritual. He uses his powers based mostly on gut and intuition and relies on his emotion.
Wally's theme is spirituality, emotion and instinct. Being connected to something higher with a higher purpose.
Some of these changes are drastic but I think some are just leaning heavily into the already existing distintions which is great for defining them. The differences between.them.could also roll into their costumes and how they use their powers as well as their villains.
Maybe this would work better as an elseworld but just a thought.
My name is Wally West. I"m the fastest man alive. I"m the Flash.
Favorite Heroes - 1-Flash/Wally West, 2-Superman, 3-Green Lantern/Hal Jordan, 4-Nightwing, 5-Hawkman, 6-Firestorm, 7-Supergirl/Linda Danvers, 8-Zatanna, 9-Robin/Tim Drake