Rank the X-Men movies from best to worst (in your humble opinion)

[Mutant 77]

DOFP was the closest thing Marvel had to TDK before Logan. When DOFP was released, that was the best and most compelling superhero drama we have had since TDK. As a marvel fan, I knew it was a matter of time before marvel arguably makes a movie better than TDK and I was right with Logan. DOPP was a more complex grey area movie than TDK, TDK is better directed but what separates both from Ragnarok is, they respected the overview story of the source material, Ragnarok didn't.

TRUE about DOFP.

"Ragnarok" is just a PARODY movie featuring an average American football player throwing one-liners and acting silly. That's not THOR. Totally disrespectful and insulting. Horrid movie, horrid screenplay, horrid direction.

[Raiders]

DOFP was the closest thing Marvel had to TDK before Logan. When DOFP was released, that was the best and most compelling superhero drama we have had since TDK. As a marvel fan, I knew it was a matter of time before marvel arguably makes a movie better than TDK and I was right with Logan. DOPP was a more complex grey area movie than TDK, TDK is better directed but what separates both from Ragnarok is, they respected the overview story of the source material, Ragnarok didn't.

I think TDK is the best superhero movie ever made. DOFP and Logan are close.
Ragnarok was and still an embarrassment.

[Jokerz79]

All right tired of TDK and DOFP comparisons time to explain why TDK is a great film and DOFP while entertaining is another dumb Time Travel movie.

The Dark Knight first off isn't a superhero movie its a comic book film yes but Batman in it isn't a superhero he's vigilante. As for the film it is a in depth character piece that explores its characters and which villain at its center believes even the good can be completely corrupted if they are pushed enough. It also examines societies willing to roll with certain events if we believe they are acceptable to societies plan. Best scene in the film is Joker telling Harvey how society is okay with a gang member being killed because it's part of our plan but freak out when a Mayor is killed because it's not part of the plan. Also speaking of Joker he is a terrifying villain who only cares about being proven right and he cross any line to do it and he also can't be reasoned or bargained with and if the hero kills him to stop his madness he will die knowing he was right because he drove the hero to compromise himself. Joker is the unbeatable foe because he'll never stop unless you kill him and even than he wins and it's why he's arguably the best villain period.

Now Time Travel films are fun but most have one flaw and what is it class? You can't go back in time to change history because it would erase your reason for time traveling and create a paradox. It's why the first Back to the Future was damn near a perfect time travel movie because he accidently changed history and was trying to set it right well until it all went off the rails with that Chuck Berry joke but still great movie. Probably the best Time Travel movie is the original Terminator because it didn't change the past or future just created the events that led to the future the Terminator and Reese came from.

Even DOFP in the comics revealed the “future” never changed its where Rachel came from Marvel Comics wisely has the Multiverse rule to time travel paradoxes if you go back in time to change history if you succeed all you do is create a divergent alternate timeline parallel to your own.

So DOFP is already a dumb time travel movie out of the gate and it's fun and interesting to see a Sentinel dominated future. But when comparing to Dark Knight and it's ambiguous characters like Harvey Dent a man who stands for law while constantly willing to break it to “uphold” it. DOFP doesn't come close the bad guys are bad there is no grey I don't count Magneto or Mystique as bad guys they are at worst portrayed as Anti-Heroes not villains. The Villains are Stryker, Trask, and Sentinels and none are grey.

In 2014 DOFP came out it was a good movie but in truth the best Superhero Movie was Winter Soldier which asked important questions on the morality of such acts as Government Surveillance, Drone Attacks, Trading Liberty for Security, and False Flag Attacks and had better villains than DOFP with Alexander Pierce played brilliantly by Robert Redford and the Winter Soldier which was a great psychological villain for Steve. The most entertaining superhero movie of 2014 was GOTG, and the best U.S. released comic book movie of 2014 was Snowpiercer. Wow 2014 had some great comic book movies let's not talk about Amazing Spider-Man 2 though.

[Raiders]

TRUE about DOFP.

"Ragnarok" is just a PARODY movie featuring an average American football player throwing one-liners and acting silly. That's not THOR. Totally disrespectful and insulting. Horrid movie, horrid screenplay, horrid direction.

I know what you mean,when I seen it, I was like, what is these, I kept repeat, why,why,why

[Theleviathan]

All right tired of TDK and DOFP comparisons time to explain why TDK is a great film and DOFP while entertaining is another dumb Time Travel movie.

The Dark Knight first off isn't a superhero movie its a comic book film yes but Batman in it isn't a superhero he's vigilante. As for the film it is a in depth character piece that explores its characters and which villain at its center believes even the good can be completely corrupted if they are pushed enough. It also examines societies willing to roll with certain events if we believe they are acceptable to societies plan. Best scene in the film is Joker telling Harvey how society is okay with a gang member being killed because it's part of our plan but freak out when a Mayor is killed because it's not part of the plan. Also speaking of Joker he is a terrifying villain who only cares about being proven right and he cross any line to do it and he also can't be reasoned or bargained with and if the hero kills him to stop his madness he will die knowing he was right because because he drove the hero to compromise himself. Joker is the unbeatable foe because he'll never stop unless you kill him and even than he wins and it's why he's arguably the best villain period.

Now Time Travel films are fun but most have one flaw and what is it class? You can't go back in time to change history because it would erase your reason for time traveling and create a paradox. It's why the first Back to the Future was damn near a perfect time travel movie because he accidently changed history and was trying to set it right well until it all went off the rails with that Chuck Berry joke but still great movie. Probably the best Time Travel movie is the original Terminator because it didn't change the past or future just created the events that led to the future the Terminator and Reese came from.

Even DOFP in the comics revealed the “future” never changed its where Rachel came from Marvel Comics wisely has the Multiverse rule to time travel paradoxes if you go back in time to change history if you succeed all you do is create a divergent alternate timeline parallel to your own.

So DOFP is already a dumb time travel movie out of the gate and it's fun and interesting to see a Sentinel dominated future. But when comparing to Dark Knight and it's ambiguous characters like Harvey Dent a man who stands for law while constantly willing to break it to “uphold” it. DOFP doesn't come close the bad guys are bad there is no grey I don't count Magneto or Mystique as bad guys they are at best portrayed as Anti-Heros not villains. The Villains are Stryker, Trask, and Sentinels and none are grey.

In 2014 DOFP came out it was a good movie but in truth the best Superhero Movie was Winter Soldier which asked important questions on the morality of such acts as Government Surveillance, Drone Attacks, Trading Liberty for Security, and False Flag Attacks and had better villains than DOFP with Alexander Pierce played brilliantly by Robert Redford and the Winter Soldier which was a great psychological villain for Steve. The most entertaining superhero movie of 2014 was GOTG, and the best U.S. released comic book movie of 2014 was Snowpiercer. Wow 2014 had some great comic book movies let's not talk about Amazing Spider-Man 2 though.

Well said. DoFP gets overrated, IMO, because it tries to set the wrongs right. There are some good team action scenes as well. The reason these jump out to people isn't a good one, however. We got so few great team scenes that this felt amazing. And we were so badly wronged a few times that righting felt extra good.

At the heart of DoFP, though, is another shrine to Mystique and Wolverine. It's not true to the heart of the original story because it chose to center it on two characters too heavily. Entertaining flick, some great moments, but bogged down by the usual XCU problems. Mystique/Wolvie/Stryker fetish, major characters barely used more than window dressing, limited forward momentum.

[Divine Spark]

Well said. DoFP gets overrated, IMO, because it tries to set the wrongs right. There are some good team action scenes as well. The reason these jump out to people isn't a good one, however. We got so few great team scenes that this felt amazing. And we were so badly wronged a few times that righting felt extra good.

At the heart of DoFP, though, is another shrine to Mystique and Wolverine. It's not true to the heart of the original story because it chose to center it on two characters too heavily. Entertaining flick, some great moments, but bogged down by the usual XCU problems. Mystique/Wolvie/Stryker fetish, major characters barely used more than window dressing, limited forward momentum.

Days of Future Past was Xavier’s story not Mystique and Wolverine’s. He has more screentime than them and is the one with the character arc. Even the film makers said this. All Wolverine did was deliver a message and Mystique’s role was the same as it was in the original.

[Theleviathan]

Days of Future Past was Xavier’s story not Mystique and Wolverine’s. He has more screentime than them and is the one with the character arc. Even the film makers said this. All Wolverine did was deliver a message and Mystique’s role was the same as it was in the original.

I would agree, Xavier was central too, but it's pretty clear Wolverine and Mystique had over-emphasized parts. Particularly Mystique.

[Jeramas]

All right tired of TDK and DOFP comparisons time to explain why TDK is a great film and DOFP while entertaining is another dumb Time Travel movie.

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Batman in TDK is a superhero and a vigilante. The same applies to X-Men in DOFP, there are superheroes but freedom fighters. The last of their kind who had to save what was rest of humanity, mutants and humans. Batman had to stop the joker only , X-Men had to take on artificial intelligent bio chemical machines. Who were doing more damage than Joker.

The depth of character in TDK is found in DOFP, Harvey Dent is Mystique. Joker and Magneto are the best villains in comics by many comic fans for different reasons. Joker was the undisputed evil, Magneto was not evil, as marvel girl said , X-Men is grey. In DOFP, Xavier applies the same concept joker does with mystique but not from an evil 1 dimensional point. When wolverine told Xavier, mystique was the one who set everything in motion, Xavier disagreed and said that was not girl he raised. The depth of loss was what Harvey dent and mystique had to deal with that is explored in the movie, more with mystique. Raven never wanted a war or to kill people randomly, she just wanted payback. Harvey dent went from good to evil quite fast. Raven was still caught in the middle. She has more depth as a character than Dent. Who changed too quickly. If this was truly realistic setting, Dent will be angry at the Joker the most, not Batman or Gordon. Batman and Gordon are not the people who killed Rachel.

As a DC Fan, yes joker is terrifying but he has never been my favourite villain in DC due to his one dimensional characteristics. In the batman’s rogues gallery Ra’s Al Ghaul is his best villain. Ra’s is a step above the cat and mouse game batman and joker play all the time. DOFP had 3 dimensional villains; anyone could see Magneto and Xavier’s point of view. Human have every right to fight to live as much as mutants, neither sides are wrong. Joker is plain wrong in his attitude to kill for fun or fun no reason. Joker is a terrorist. He is to be killed at first sight. Mutants, even the bad ones are not terrorist s they are defending themselves from people who want to wipe them out. That is depth conflict in DOFP not found in TDK. TDK is a 9/11 situation. DOFP is a Israeli vs Palestine situation. .

There is a line in DOFP that gave Trask a better winning point to Joker.
Trask: I don’t hate mutants, I admire them, the things they can do. Mutants our salvation. A common struggle to prevent the ultimate struggle. Extinction

People actually want xmen to wear colourful costume but are calling the time travel in DOFP dumb. these same people will soon call Avengers end game the best thing ever when it uses time travel that will be less than original to DOFP. If time travel is dumb then every time travel story since the 1800s is dumb. Time travel is a powerful tool in science fiction depending on how you tell it. Time travel will be as dumb as anything you see in comics movies from someone dressing us as a Bat, a cat or a bird or how one person can do as much damage in a week and not have been stopped as the Joker. Was joker that smart or were the Gotham police incompetent or did the wittier of the film givethe villain too much power and made the heroes too stupid? Many Batman fans who didn’t like TDK as much as Batman Begins, complained Batman was too dumb in the film for the word greatest detective. If time travel is dumb as you say than every comic film is dumb including flashpoint.

the time travel you mention will be dumb if that was what happened in the movie but from the movie, everything you said was wrong.
Young Charles: [voice over] Countless choices define our fate. Each choice, each moment, a ripple in the river of time. Enough ripples and you change the tide.] For the future is never truly set.

Tim travel in DOFP was done the right way, unfixed and convoluted even branching off to parallel universes. Wait for easy dumb time travel with Avengers endgame.The best comic movie was DOFP n 2014, winter solider never asked any question about the importance of governance surveillance or any of those things there were disposable in the film, you have to bread crumb it. DOFP is not bread crumbed. DOFP is hand down the best xmen film that really has an explosive content of the human vs mutant debate that rivals what we see in harmas , Syria and Gaza, what we see even in the USA. The racism culture fox news and neo-cons telling us black and Hispanic wants to harm white people and take over america. DOFP, the government tells us humans are the victims. Mutants wants to take over the world when it is not actually that, the war is split from magneto and xavier's pov and the mutants that take sides with them.

Robert redford was so disappointing in Winter Solider Trask from DOFP was better, his philosophical views of mutants was inspiring since it was not a complete evil view point. redford was a common villain that wanted to use the government to take over the world, one of marvel’s most one dimensional villains in an already poor MCU rogues gallery. Shaw from first class is 10x what Redford was in winter solider. To see shaw manipulate the USA and Russain movement to a nuclear war makes winter solider look redundant.

DOFP was far better than winter solider, it dealt with the governmental issues better, ie, the governmental rushing to build sentinels out if fear, If you want to talk politics and government crumbling, when magneto tries to kill the president on live TV, nothing defines a political moment in the real world to when JFK was shot on live TV. Magneto also goes further calling out the world of their mistreatment of mutants, they hypocrisy of humans, their ignorance, urging mutants to become civil right activists for a better tomorrow. I see the Malcolm X parallels in Magneto. Unlike Xavier and MLK, who wanted to play nice. Magneto tells it as it is like Malcom X did. Winter Solider suffered from bad writing, the movie ended 50 minutes into the film when steve meets this machine that tells us the whole plot of the film. DOFP kept you thinking on the next move of action, DOFP had many racism subtext, many calls back to the war in Vietnam war , but DOFP stumps Winter Solider because the characters are better like TDK. Winter Solider felt more like cardboard characters trying to make use of a spy movie written by a bunch of freshmen in high school.

the two videos of the the comparison OF DOFP and TDK.

Harvey Dent vs Gordon vs Batman: who is right out of the 3.

[Jeramas]

Xavier vs Mystique vs Magneto= who is right out of the 3

Watching the two videos, it is harder to argue who is right in DOFP not TDK. Dent and Joker are just wrong and at that point they have lost their minds and are just evil. Magneto and Mystique are not evil anymore than the USA president is evil. Anyone can understand their motives more than joker or dent.
It is almost the same film but DOFP is indeed more complicated. TDK and DOFP are character driven films with no easy answers. All what winter solider had to do was shut down SHIELD. Whoever called DOFP the best comic film since TDK, this DC fan for me approves. I knew there was a reason I liked xmen even when I knew Marvel stole it from DC's Doom patrol. DOFP is close to TDK and Flashpoint for the time travel aspects.

OH, both movies even ends with everyone going their separates ways, just to tell you how conflicted these characters actually were, but both films deals with hope.Gordon hopes although batman has walked away, he will come back and be the hero Gotham deserved. The theme is explored further in TDKR. Xavier has the same wishful thinking, as mystique walks away, he says he has hope raven will come back and start to heal.

James Mcvoy acts the hell out of the movie in DOFP. He gave the defining performance in the film. From a serious analytical view point, he is better to watch than Joker. he showed so many different sides to him as a character. Joker was just crazy through out but just as good in the craziness but like the joker's weakness since his conception.Joker can't evolve as a character. Winter Solider not so much in defining character acting moments. lol. winter solider is the best MCU can do, poor MCU,

[Jokerz79]

Batman in TDK is a superhero and a vigilante. The same applies to X-Men in DOFP, there are superheroes but freedom fighters. The last of their kind who had to save what was rest of humanity, mutants and humans. Batman had to stop the joker only , X-Men had to take on artificial intelligent bio chemical machines. Who were doing more damage than Joker.

The depth of character in TDK is found in DOFP, Harvey Dent is Mystique. Joker and Magneto are the best villains in comics by many comic fans for different reasons. Joker was the undisputed evil, Magneto was not evil, as marvel girl said , X-Men is grey. In DOFP, Xavier applies the same concept joker does with mystique but not from an evil 1 dimensional point. When wolverine told Xavier, mystique was the one who set everything in motion, Xavier disagreed and said that was not girl he raised. The depth of loss was what Harvey dent and mystique had to deal with that is explored in the movie, more with mystique. Raven never wanted a war or to kill people randomly, she just wanted payback. Harvey dent went from good to evil quite fast. Raven was still caught in the middle. She has more depth as a character than Dent. Who changed too quickly. If this was truly realistic setting, Dent will be angry at the Joker the most, not Batman or Gordon. Batman and Gordon are not the people who killed Rachel.

As a DC Fan, yes joker is terrifying but he has never been my favourite villain in DC due to his one dimensional characteristics. In the batman’s rogues gallery Ra’s Al Ghaul is his best villain. Ra’s is a step above the cat and mouse game batman and joker play all the time. DOFP had 3 dimensional villains; anyone could see Magneto and Xavier’s point of view. Human have every right to fight to live as much as mutants, neither sides are wrong. Joker is plain wrong in his attitude to kill for fun or fun no reason. Joker is a terrorist. He is to be killed at first sight. Mutants, even the bad ones are not terrorist s they are defending themselves from people who want to wipe them out. That is depth conflict in DOFP not found in TDK. TDK is a 9/11 situation. DOFP is a Israeli vs Palestine situation. .

There is a line in DOFP that gave Trask a better winning point to Joker.
Trask: I don’t hate mutants, I admire them, the things they can do. Mutants our salvation. A common struggle to prevent the ultimate struggle. Extinction

People actually want xmen to wear colourful costume but are calling the time travel in DOFP dumb. these same people will soon call Avengers end game the best thing ever when it uses time travel that will be less than original to DOFP. If time travel is dumb then every time travel story since the 1800s is dumb. Time travel is a powerful tool in science fiction depending on how you tell it. Time travel will be as dumb as anything you see in comics movies from someone dressing us as a Bat, a cat or a bird or how one person can do as much damage in a week and not have been stopped as the Joker. Was joker that smart or were the Gotham police incompetent or did the wittier of the film givethe villain too much power and made the heroes too stupid? Many Batman fans who didn’t like TDK as much as Batman Begins, complained Batman was too dumb in the film for the word greatest detective. If time travel is dumb as you say than every comic film is dumb including flashpoint.

the time travel you mention will be dumb if that was what happened in the movie but from the movie, everything you said was wrong.
Young Charles: [voice over] Countless choices define our fate. Each choice, each moment, a ripple in the river of time. Enough ripples and you change the tide.] For the future is never truly set.

Tim travel in DOFP was done the right way, unfixed and convoluted even branching off to parallel universes. Wait for easy dumb time travel with Avengers. DOFP time travel was star treky. Avengers will be line hot tube time machine.

The best comic movie was DOFP i n 2014, winter solider never asked any question about the importance of governance surveillance or any of those things there were disposable in the film, you have to bread crumb it. DOFP is not bread crumbed. DOFP is hand down the best xmen film that really has an explosive content of the human vs mutant debate that rivals what we see in harmas , Syria and Gaza, what we see even in the USA. The racism culture fox news and neo-cons tells us black and Hispanic wants to harm white people and take over america. DOFP, the government tells us humans are the victims. Mutants wants to take over the world when it is not actually that, the war split from magneto and xavier's pov and the mutants that take sides.

Robert redford was so disappointing in Winter Solider Trask from DOFP was better, his philosophical views of mutants was inspiring since it was not a complete evil view point. redford was a common villain that wanted to use the government to take over the world, one of marvel’s most one dimensional villains in an already poor MCU rogues gallery. Shaw from first class is 10x what Redford was in winter solider. To see shaw manipulate the USA and Russain movement to a nuclear war makes winter solider look redundant.

DOFP was far better than winter solider, it dealt with the governmental issues better, ie, the governmental rushing to build sentinels out if fear, If you want to talk politics and government crumbling, when magneto threatens the president on live TV, nothing defines a political moment in the real world to when JFK was shot on live TV. Magneto also goes further calling out the world of their mistreatment of mutants, they hypocrisy of humans, their ignorance, urging mutants to become civil right activists for a better tomorrow. I see the Malcolm X parallels in Magneto. Unlike Xavier and MLK, who wanted to play nice. Magneto tells it as it is like Malcom X did. Winter Solider suffered from bad writing, the movie ended 50 minutes into the film when steve meets this machine that tells us the whole plot of the film. DOFP kept you thinking on the next move of action, DOFP had many racism subtext, many calls back to the war in Vietnam war , but DOFP stumps Winter Solider because the characters are better. Winter Solider felt more like cardboard characters trying to make use of a spy movie written by a bunch of freshmen in high school.

the two videos of the the comparison OF DOFP and TDK.

Harvey Dent vs Gordon vs Batman: who is right out of the 3.

Joker is better than Ra's because you can't beat Joker even in death he wins.

Mystique is not complex every action she did was for one goal mutant survival it was one note.

Saying racism is bad isn't as thought provoking as the small things we allow the government to do in the name of security.

Don' t speak for Robert Redford.

Winter Soldier was better because he was brainwashed and Steve wanted to save him but was his friend to far gone. Magneto and Xavier have become a joke in the films Magneto does a bad thing, Xavier stops him, Xavier gives him a lecture about hope, and Magneto says you'll see Charles I was right rinse and repeat next film.

Admiring your prey isn't deep hunters admire prey it's doesn't make shooting a deer complex.

[Jeramas]

Joker is better than Ra's because you can't beat Joker even in death he wins.

Mystique is not complex every action she did was for one goal mutant survival it was one note.

Saying racism is bad isn't as thought provoking as the small things we allow the government to do in the name of security.

Don' t speak for Robert Redford.

Winter Soldier was better because he was brainwashed and Steve wanted to save him but was his friend to far gone. Magneto and Xavier have become a joke in the films Magneto does a bad thing, Xavier stops him, Xavier gives him a lecture about hope, and Magneto says you'll see Charles I was right rinse and repeat next film.

Admiring your prey isn't deep hunters admire prey it's doesn't make shooting a deer complex.

Take it from me as a DC fan, Ra's was a representation of batman growing up, stepping away from the cat and mouse simplistic good vs bad themes of comics Batman did with joker , this was when comic were still seen as a kids thing. Villains like Ra's and Bane was what shifted batman to the grown up world away from the jokers and penquins who were seen as too comical.

Mystique is complex, she is neither fully good or evil at the very core. Joker and Dent were just evil at their very core.

Saying racism is bad isn't thought provoking , making people deal it , accepting it exist , talking about it 24/7 and showing it is not an easy sickness to get rid off is ''thought provoking''.

I should not speak for redford but you spoke for the entire DOFP movie. a movie with better acting performances than Redford gave. LOL

Winter Solider is worse because magneto does not need to be brainwashed, I see Malcolm x here, Malcom x called out the west for trying to brainwash Africans to easily forgive slavery. Magneto has a mind of his own, which makes him guilty and fully responsible for his actions, also adding to what makes his relationship with xavier so difficult. it is far better than winter solider.

magneto and xavier are not the jokes in the film, they are the gods. Killmongerr and Black Panther are the jokes for trying to be like them Magneto brushes off xavier's speeches because magneto is strongwilled , He is just as right as Xavier from a different point of view Steve seems more like he is baby siting a man child with Bucky. we cant even say his friendship with bucky has any real depth , bucky hardly talks unlike Xavier and Magneto that can talk even over coffee break or a game of chess.


When Xavier and Magneto are at it. you feel different things for each character.


Winter Solider. lol. DOFP beats this movie so bad. How is winter solider better? not if you want to use TDK as a template.

[Jokerz79]

Take it from me as a DC fan, Ra's was a representation of batman growing up, stepping away from the cat and mouse simplistic good vs bad themes of comics Batman did with joker , this was when comic were still seen as a kids thing. Villains like Ra's and Bane was what shifted batman to the grown up world away from the jokers and penquins who were seen as too comical.

Mystique is complex, she is neither fully good or evil at the very core. Joker and Dent were just evil at their very core.

Saying racism is bad isn't thought provoking , making people deal it , accepting it exist , talking about it 24/7 and showing it is not an easy sickness to get rid off is ''thought provoking''.

I should not speak for redford but you spoke for the entire DOFP movie. a movie with better acting performances than Redford gave. LOL

Winter Solider is worse because magneto does not need to be brainwashed, I see Malcolm x here, Malcom x called out the west for trying to brainwash Africans to easily forgive slavery. Magneto has a mind of his own, which makes him guilty and fully responsible for his actions, also adding to what makes his relationship with xavier so difficult. it is far better than winter solider.

magneto and xavier are not the jokes in the film, they are the gods. Killmongerr and Black Panther are the jokes for trying to be like them Magneto brushes off xavier's speeches because magneto is strongwilled , He is just as right as Xavier from a different point of view Steve seems more like he is baby siting a man child with Bucky. we cant even say his friendship with bucky has any real depth , bucky hardly talks unlike Xavier and Magneto that can talk even over coffee break or a game of chess.


When Xavier and Magneto are at it. you feel different things for each character.


Winter Solider. lol. DOFP beats this movie so bad. How is winter solider better? not if you want to use TDK as a template.

I am a Marvel and DC fan and the clips are giving me Deju Vu so I now know to ignore this and not take it serious.

[Jeramas]

I am a Marvel and DC fan and the clips are giving me Deju Vu so I now know to ignore this and not take it serious.

Very hard to ignore what has already happened. DOFP happened, it beats the light out of winter solider. How can winter solider leap forward above this movie.

Young charles meeting old Charles? this is how to make time travel smart. To have real conflicting moments using time travel.

TRUE about DOFP.

"Ragnarok" is just a PARODY movie featuring an average American football player throwing one-liners and acting silly. That's not THOR. Totally disrespectful and insulting. Horrid movie, horrid screenplay, horrid direction.

Ragnarok is the highest rated MCU movie on rt not counting Black Panther. The highest rated MCU movie is a PARODY. lol. Critics will give MCU a pass for sneezing. X-Men Origins is better than Ragnarok.

DOFP was the closest thing Marvel had to TDK before Logan. When DOFP was released, that was the best and most compelling superhero drama we have had since TDK. As a marvel fan, I knew it was a matter of time before marvel arguably makes a movie better than TDK and I was right with Logan. DOPP was a more complex grey area movie than TDK, TDK is better directed but what separates both from Ragnarok is, they respected the overview story of the source material, Ragnarok didn't.

Justice League respected the overview more than Ragnarok, Critics just let Justice League crush and burn while protecting Ragnarok.

[Raiders]

The MCU has always been severely overrated by the critics. But that’s true of all Disney movies.
I guess Disney wine and dine the critics better than other studios. Ragnarok and Dr. Strange are some of the most overrated movies in last ten years.

[Midvillian1322]

Ragnarok wasnt a parody it was a comedy and guess what fans loved it just as much as critics. Why because its a comedy but yet still has more character develpment then most Comicbook movies. Loki and Thor have more of an arc in that movie that the rest of they're appearances. Thors journey to becoming his own man without Mjonir and Odin to lean on so he can lead his people. And Loki slow journey to the realization that hes bee blaming other people his whole life for things that are his fault. The Elevator scene sums it up so well. As Thor tells Loki he was always his favorite person and he thought they would be by each other side forever. And Hiddlestons non verbal acting as it sinks in... oh it's not him I'm the asshole. And yes they do undercut it with an immediate Gag. But it's a comedy.

And Thor was the least of all the Marvel franchises with Thor 2 being the closes thing to bad. So Marvel hired a cooky director and let him take Thor in a crazy new direction. And guess what Thors popularity went through the roof. So much so he was on of the main stars of Infinity war with Thanos and Tony. That movie was dominated by those 3 performances. Thor shined as much as Tony did. Given he took a backseat I hope Endgame is the Steve Rodgers show.