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    I think the writers need to make her stories matter needless filler will drive away readers along with false advertising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    That...really doesn't sound convincing .

    Nice to see her team-up with Peter though.
    Yea, they tried I guess, but there is just no way of not making that dumb name that only exists for synergy with Marvel Rising work naturally. Hell even her reasoning of “Jess would kill her for using Spider-Woman” doesn’t work when she’s in 616 where there are currently no less than 3 people going by the name of Spider-Man running around, 2 of which operate out of the same city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurolegacy View Post
    Yea, they tried I guess, but there is just no way of not making that dumb name that only exists for synergy with Marvel Rising work naturally. Hell even her reasoning of “Jess would kill her for using Spider-Woman” doesn’t work when she’s in 616 where there are currently no less than 3 people going by the name of Spider-Man running around, 2 of which operate out of the same city.
    It just kind of makes Jess look bad if that's Gwen's reasoning, to be honest. It's not like Jess was the only Spider-Woman in 616 anyways, if the only one currently active.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    It just kind of makes Jess look bad if that's Gwen's reasoning, to be honest. It's not like Jess was the only Spider-Woman in 616 anyways, if the only one currently active.
    Early on in the first New Avengers series by Brian Bendis, Jess (even if she really was the Skrull Queen Veranke in disguise) and Peter bantered a bit about it, and on Jess/Veranke's end, she seemed rather annoyed that there were other Spider-Women. Then again, she (the real Jessica Drew) did meet her successors and help mentor the youngest in Mattie Franklin's Spider-Woman series, so aside from the one that was actually evil (Charlotte Witter), you'd think she wouldn't have that much of a problem with them.
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    I'm pretty sure Jess has referred to all 3 of them (herself, Silk and Gwen) as Spider-Women before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seren View Post
    I'm pretty sure Jess has referred to all 3 of them (herself, Silk and Gwen) as Spider-Women before.
    And Silk doesn't even have "Spider" in her codename .

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    Yeah, she named herself after her organic webbing instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    It just kind of makes Jess look bad if that's Gwen's reasoning, to be honest. It's not like Jess was the only Spider-Woman in 616 anyways, if the only one currently active.
    To be fair, Gwen has no reason to even know that Julia and Mattie exist. Both were last seen in Clone Conspiracy, but didn't meet Gwen there - Julia was with Prowler and Mattie was with Silk. Mattie was dead for both Spider-Verse and Spider-Geddon and Julia for some reason was barely involved in Verse and ignored for Geddon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    To be fair, Gwen has no reason to even know that Julia and Mattie exist. Both were last seen in Clone Conspiracy, but didn't meet Gwen there - Julia was with Prowler and Mattie was with Silk. Mattie was dead for both Spider-Verse and Spider-Geddon and Julia for some reason was barely involved in Verse and ignored for Geddon.
    That still pisses me off. Given that the very premise of both revolves around alternate realities, there was no reason not to have Mattie or Julia in there, too.
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    Especially Julia (she's the one with the stronger connection with the Web of Life and Destiny).

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    In Spider-Verse, yeah. Trouble is, she had a coma around that time (thanks a lot, Daredevil). And when it came to Spider-Geddon, she'd been depowered, due to Madame Webb's temporary resurrection in Clone Conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    In Spider-Verse, yeah. Trouble is, she had a coma around that time (thanks a lot, Daredevil). And when it came to Spider-Geddon, she'd been depowered, due to Madame Webb's temporary resurrection in Clone Conspiracy.
    Actually, Julia was in a coma because of Superior Spider-Man, her last vision predicting his rise and the fall of Peter Parker. Of course, Peter ultimately came back, but somehow that didn't pull her out of her coma until her connection to the Web of Life and Destiny had been severed in the epilogue of Spider-Verse. That said, the depowering in The Clone Conspiracy didn't make sense to me, as her original spider-powers should've remained intact even if she lost the psychic abilities of clairvoyance, precognition, telepathy, and astral projection she inherited from Cassandra Webb.
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    Gwen should've seen this coming:



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    • Gwen Stacy of Earth-65 has decided to enroll in class at Empire State University in the Marvel Universe! Now, she’ll be taking classes down the hall from Peter Parker, your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man!
    • But things aren’t as safe as they may seem. Peter’s not the only person in the Marvel Universe who may recognize Gwen Stacy, and not all of them share his noble intentions…
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    Literally just enrolls and immediately has 616 Gwen's stalker on her ass. Peter really should've given her a heads up. Also, more Mary Jane and Gwen variants cause the authors loves to tease things that'll never happen:


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    Quote Originally Posted by eratas123 View Post
    Also, more Mary Jane and Gwen variants cause the authors loves to tease things that'll never happen:
    I feel bad for people who will take that at face value and assume that means Gwen is "finally" dating Earth-65 Mary Jane.
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    I'm kind of surprised that they actually seem to be going to the effort to develop a dynamic between Gwen and 616 Peter.
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonEchidna View Post
    I feel bad for people who will take that at face value and assume that means Gwen is "finally" dating Earth-65 Mary Jane.
    I'm still waiting for her to meet 616 MJ...

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