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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    Yep. If he was on the main Earth, he wouldn't have second place either. Wonder Woman overshadows him as well, as she should.
    If he's on his own Earth, he doesn't have to worry about catering to either of their franchise's needs. And since the main Earth already has the Superman archetype, what need is there for Shazam/Captain Marvel to occupy the same space?



    They need to get rid of the tendency to move everyone to the main Earth, then it wouldn't be inevitable.

    Same with the JSA. It's not an accurate reflection of DC's history the earlier we go. Clutter Earth will never go away unfortunately, but I wish it would.
    You can say that about a number of acquired properties that DC has tried to integrate into a single universe. Personally, having many heroes on one world is not a problem; focusing on one or two heroes at the expense of these others IS a problem. Unfortunately, only those books/characters that are profitable will be showcased, most notably Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman. If I were in charge, the "trinity" would be depicted as having a more well-rounded life, since they have so many allies and proteges to rely upon to shoulder the duties of being a superhero. Not that any of the trinity would take a back seat, but they could actually have a day off for a change. Batman would NOT be "Batman" 24/7, if he was smart about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dswynne View Post
    You can say that about a number of acquired properties that DC has tried to integrate into a single universe. Personally, having many heroes on one world is not a problem; focusing on one or two heroes at the expense of these others IS a problem. Unfortunately, only those books/characters that are profitable will be showcased, most notably Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman. If I were in charge, the "trinity" would be depicted as having a more well-rounded life, since they have so many allies and proteges to rely upon to shoulder the duties of being a superhero. Not that any of the trinity would take a back seat, but they could actually have a day off for a change. Batman would NOT be "Batman" 24/7, if he was smart about it.
    The problem is Shazam is a Superman expy/archetype that lives on a world that already has a Superman. He was not designed to live in the same universe as Clark, so DC acquiring the franchise doesn't mean it is the best decision. He cannot reach his full potential in a world that already has Superman and Wonder Woman (and that's before we even get into the likes of J'onn and Supergirl), and it's not fair to them to have their statuses altered to accommodate a character who didn't even start out at DC.

    Focusing on other heroes at the expense of others can be a problem, but the Shazam mythos can get a lot of focus along with other Fawcett properties even if they were on a seperate Earth. Neglecting the Multiverse concept is still a poor creative decision, especially when it's pretty well documented that smooshing everything onto one Earth is where the company's continuity problems REALLY got out of control and never really recovered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buried Alien View Post
    I've always liked the Pre-COIE setup of Earth-S wherein Captain Marvel could be the unrivaled World's Mightiest Mortal. At the same time, access to Prime-Earth (or whatever it's called these days) should not be inconvenient.

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    This is how I feel. When DC crammed all the Earths together it just became a mess. They should separate the Earths like they had it. What's the point of having seven Green Lanterns on Earth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegePerilous02 View Post
    The problem is Shazam is a Superman expy/archetype that lives on a world that already has a Superman. He was not designed to live in the same universe as Clark, so DC acquiring the franchise doesn't mean it is the best decision. He cannot reach his full potential in a world that already has Superman and Wonder Woman (and that's before we even get into the likes of J'onn and Supergirl), and it's not fair to them to have their statuses altered to accommodate a character who didn't even start out at DC.

    Focusing on other heroes at the expense of others can be a problem, but the Shazam mythos can get a lot of focus along with other Fawcett properties even if they were on a seperate Earth. Neglecting the Multiverse concept is still a poor creative decision, especially when it's pretty well documented that smooshing everything onto one Earth is where the company's continuity problems REALLY got out of control and never really recovered.
    You mean, YOU don't think Captain Marvel is good enough to be on the same playing field as Superman. Other than super-strength, speed, invulnerability, the ability to fly, and having dark hair, Cap and Supes have radically different abilities and orientations. Superman is "super human" 24/7, and has super-sensory abilities plus heat vision and cold breath. Cap? As to say a magic word to be empowered. Also, he wields the magic lightning plus a mystical background to play with, whereas Superman deals in super-science and alien threats. Superman is an adult in an adult's body; Cap is a kid in an adult's body.

    So, yeah, you're right. There is NO possible way that Cap can operate on the same world as Superman. Yep...too similar, especially since they are both HEROES. LOL.

    But on the real, putting Cap in a ghetto is just plain lazy and unimaginative. IMO, of course.

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