Braun Stroman vs Big Van Vader

[Crunkula]

Two monsters from different eras duke it out in a steel cage match.

Only in ring feats are allowed for this one.

[master of read]

going by titles, vader eclipses braun by a massive margin.

going by pure feats, it swings the other way.

[Crunkula]

going by titles, vader eclipses braun by a massive margin.

going by pure feats, it swings the other way.

I want to keep this to in ring feats only.

[master of read]

I want to keep this to in ring feats only.

then i'm giving it to braun. better strength, faster movement speed and hella good soak.

[wjowski]

I disagree. Vader in his prime was the OG unstoppable monster. Getting hit by his powerbomb was basically death. And honestly he's faced way tougher opponents than Braun has.

[master of read]

braun has thrown big show through the steel cage and kayfabe put him out for months.

braun is durable enough to take multiple finishers from multiple main event level guys and still not get pinned.

braun is the only man to ever get up and walk away from a ring implosion.

then there's the multiple number of cars and other vehicles that braun has turned over when he is pissed.

as good as vader's power bomb is, i'm not seeing it giving him the 3 count.

[Beadle]

braun has thrown big show through the steel cage and kayfabe put him out for months.

braun is durable enough to take multiple finishers from multiple main event level guys and still not get pinned.

braun is the only man to ever get up and walk away from a ring implosion.

then there's the multiple number of cars and other vehicles that braun has turned over when he is pissed.

as good as vader's power bomb is, i'm not seeing it giving him the 3 count.

I assumed someone would mention this, but sticking to in-ring feats was stated.

[master of read]

I assumed someone would mention this, but sticking to in-ring feats was stated.

ok.

then there was that MITB ladder where about 6 other guys ganged up on him with weapons. that only made him mad.

[wjowski]

ok.

then there was that MITB ladder where about 6 other guys ganged up on him with weapons. that only made him mad.

Quality vs quantity. Vader's debut had him manhandle Antonio Inoki, ending a 7-8 year undefeated run.

[master of read]

Quality vs quantity. Vader's debut had him manhandle Antonio Inoki, ending a 7-8 year undefeated run.

and braun no sold a suplex from brock lesner.

[choptop]

braun has thrown big show through the steel cage and kayfabe put him out for months.

Ya but show is really past he's prime.

[master of read]

Ya but show is really past he's prime.

still doesn't negate the fact that he lifted big show up, who isn't a light man, and threw him through the cage wall. that's a feat of strength very few can come close to matching.