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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    Yeah, but... seriously?! Are we not just going to call bullshit on that as PIS or mild SMvFL or something? I mean, unless she starts consistently treating Bruce like her punching bag.
    Well, if she has no contradicting feats it should be legit.

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    I mean.. if all her previous showings are supposed to now be retconned away..

    Let's look at it like this. Anyone know what she's done since then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slade1 View Post
    Well, if she has no contradicting feats it should be legit.
    Except she does have contradicting feats. All the times she lost to Bruce.

    It’s just that she’s now said that was simply her choosing to lose.

    Which, without consistent higher-end feats, we should take with a hefty fistful of salt.

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    Well again, what did she do after that?

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    Does she have any more BT feats?
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    By CBR standards, Lady Shiva doesn't get to verbally retcon all her prior losses to Batman. That carries as much weight as Pee Wee Herman saying "I meant to do that" after he falls off his bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    By CBR standards, Lady Shiva doesn't get to verbally retcon all her prior losses to Batman. That carries as much weight as Pee Wee Herman saying "I meant to do that" after he falls off his bike.
    Might want to dial back on that post there. Please edit out the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    By CBR standards, Lady Shiva doesn't get to verbally retcon all her prior losses to Batman. That carries as much weight as Pee Wee Herman saying "I meant to do that" after he falls off his bike. It's disappointing to see some of our regulars fail so hard on this point.
    Nu52/Rebirth was the retcon.

    Chill.
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    By CBR standards, Lady Shiva doesn't get to verbally retcon all her prior losses to Batman. That carries as much weight as Pee Wee Herman saying "I meant to do that" after he falls off his bike. It's disappointing to see some of our regulars fail so hard on this point.
    She said it in the context of completely beating the crap out of him as if to actually demonstrate that being the case, it's not the same thing as her just saying as much, is the problem of simply dismissing it as opposed to observing what else she's done since that would show that wasn't then a one off all the same.

    If she's since not particularly been any kind of "ends Batman in a move" type figure in any reliable sense since then, it would make the whole thing a pretty solid outlier.
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    Guys.
    Enough. Focus on the topic and not taking potshots at each other.

    Now then. Can I have some scans of the Shiva VS Batman fight?
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    Detective Comics 532

    Complete with doing the turn around while a thing is in flight thrown at their back to catch it that Batman is usually the one doing to other people. It was drastically one sided.

    https://imgur.com/a/fD1SUJf

    https://imgur.com/a/d34dYvV

    As I've said, comes down to how seriously you take the idea that everything before this was taking a dive and how much this demonstrates that being the case.

    It would be better to know what Shiva has actually done since then to back that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendaran View Post
    Detective Comics 532

    Complete with doing the turn around while a thing is in flight thrown at their back to catch it that Batman is usually the one doing to other people. It was drastically one sided.

    https://imgur.com/a/fD1SUJf

    https://imgur.com/a/d34dYvV

    As I've said, comes down to how seriously you take the idea that everything before this was taking a dive and how much this demonstrates that being the case.

    It would be better to know what Shiva has actually done since then to back that up.
    Hm, alright. Well that is something.

    I am going to need to see some more feats from this version of Shiva first though.
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    I posted multiple times now "so what has she done since then?"

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    This is me, bolded for emphasis as needs be:

    Quote Originally Posted by Pendaran View Post
    I mean.. if all her previous showings are supposed to now be retconned away..

    Let's look at it like this. Anyone know what she's done since then?
    She said it in the context of completely beating the crap out of him as if to actually demonstrate that being the case, it's not the same thing as her just saying as much, is the problem of simply dismissing it as opposed to observing what else she's done since that would show that wasn't then a one off all the same.

    If she's since not particularly been any kind of "ends Batman in a move" type figure in any reliable sense since then, it would make the whole thing a pretty solid outlier.

    It would be better to know what Shiva has actually done since then to back that up.

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