Marvels Most Controversial Moments

[SuperiorIronman]

Riri Williams

I sincerely don't believe the Iron man franchise has recovered from that and Riri really never found a footing due to the botched introduction. I really don't know who to feel more sad for, the Iron man fans who had to sit through sales poison or Riri fans who are trying their hardest (and I truly admire that) to get jaded readers to pick the new series up.

And to be completely honest, it's kind of a failed experiment along the same lines as Cindy Moon (Silk). You're really not going to see Riri in anything unless it's for a diversity quota and all of her game appearances are pay-walled or she's a clone of Iron man. Essentially meaning that nobody who isn't even curious or willing to shell out the money is going to care. Basically her comic and appearance in Champions has to do the heavy lifting and Champions stands risk of falling on the chopping block.

[SuperiorIronman]

you're gonna anger the algorithm if you keep questioning it. anyways, the x-office deciding to scare the hell out of all the readers reading academy x atm was pretty controversial:

I've been a bit curious about this lately but can the X-books do anything besides kill characters?

[MichaelC]

That's the problem with a story about a race forever on the verge of being genocided: you are going to have a lot of disposable mooks who don't look like mooks.

[Tycon]

Riri Williams

I sincerely don't believe the Iron man franchise has recovered from that and Riri really never found a footing due to the botched introduction. I really don't know who to feel more sad for, the Iron man fans who had to sit through sales poison or Riri fans who are trying their hardest (and I truly admire that) to get jaded readers to pick the new series up.

And to be completely honest, it's kind of a failed experiment along the same lines as Cindy Moon (Silk). You're really not going to see Riri in anything unless it's for a diversity quota and all of her game appearances are pay-walled or she's a clone of Iron man. Essentially meaning that nobody who isn't even curious or willing to shell out the money is going to care. Basically her comic and appearance in Champions has to do the heavy lifting and Champions stands risk of falling on the chopping block.

ugh there's that expression again: "diversity quota" but im not gonna fly into a rant. all i'll say is: Check out Eve Ewing's current run on Ironheart, it's being praised by everyone reading it. and Riri is also getting a "Marvel Rising" animated special. Also, pay-walled characters are generally the ones that people want.....

I've been a bit curious about this lately but can the X-books do anything besides kill characters?

they can also traumatize their x-kids too

[JudicatorPrime]

This is going to sound really tame, but...
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... in the late 1970s, superheroes simply hadn't done that kind of thing for decades. Up until 1940, superheroes followed Dick Tracey's lead, and made sure they didn't have to fix problems twice. Then the rules changed.

Sure, bad guys got killed all the time (more or less), but always as a consequence of their own flaws, or as a result of choosing treacherously eeeevil companions. But superheroes didn't actively go around trying to snuff villains, even those out to end reality, let alone their hapless henchmen. It had been that way since Superman figured out how to fly.

The idea of A Good Guy Whacking A Random Lackey was utterly shocking.

At the time I saw it as comics simply echoing what we were seeing in the movies. There was no shortage of violent films in the 1950s and 60s, but Hollywood seemed to really hit its stride in the 1970s. For the longest time I thought that Wolverine was Claremont and Byrne's take on Clint Eastwood's "Dirty Harry."

[theoneandonly]

moon knight vs Bushman

[9th.]

you're gonna anger the algorithm if you keep questioning it. anyways, the x-office deciding to scare the hell out of all the readers reading academy x atm was pretty controversial:

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This still hurts

[9th.]

I assume this was pretty controversial too? I wasn't reading comics when Civil War was going on

[Username taken]

Because no college student has ever been seduced by a middle aged man? Trust me it happens often.

Oh definitely.

Just that, this was Norman Osborn, the worst of the worst.

Of all the folks for Gwen to get knocked by..they have her go with the worst possible option.

[Username taken]

Riri Williams

I sincerely don't believe the Iron man franchise has recovered from that and Riri really never found a footing due to the botched introduction. I really don't know who to feel more sad for, the Iron man fans who had to sit through sales poison or Riri fans who are trying their hardest (and I truly admire that) to get jaded readers to pick the new series up.

And to be completely honest, it's kind of a failed experiment along the same lines as Cindy Moon (Silk). You're really not going to see Riri in anything unless it's for a diversity quota and all of her game appearances are pay-walled or she's a clone of Iron man. Essentially meaning that nobody who isn't even curious or willing to shell out the money is going to care. Basically her comic and appearance in Champions has to do the heavy lifting and Champions stands risk of falling on the chopping block.

Hold on...she has her own book now.

And correct me if im wrong but aren't Iron Man sales sliding back to what they were when she was in the book? (that is around the same level they were pre-Bendis).

I agree that Bendis could have handled her introduction better now but she's going to start appearing in several different places.

[Username taken]

moon knight vs Bushman

This was pretty awesome though.

When you talk about a blood feud...this is the very definition.

[The Cool Thatguy]

you're gonna anger the algorithm if you keep questioning it. anyways, the x-office deciding to scare the hell out of all the readers reading academy x atm was pretty controversial:

I guess it's nitpicking, but that always struck me as cheap, not controversial. They moved the junior X series from character focused to action focused and butchered the cast, slowly, to get to that point.

[jetengine]

Its because the X franchise is inherently flawed and somewhat irrelevant in the modern world.

[Triniking1234]

I assume this was pretty controversial too? I wasn't reading comics when Civil War was going on

In the same story where a whole school full of children got blown up?

No.

[your_name_here]

Civil War in general is pretty controversial. A lot of people on this board dislike the hero v hero saga it started. And a lot of characters were acting completely different to how they usually did.

Personally, I think it was a perfect move for Marvel. Really showed what makes Marvel different and that’s the people...and these people fall out.