DCEU Superman vs. 616 Heroes

[The Arbiter]

Movies vs comics.

He has to attack the following strongholds.

1: Baxter Building (all FF members are there. 1 minute prep time on their side).

2: Xavier's school. Surprise attack. He gets basic knowledge of them. (pretty sure Kid Gladiator cleans up here so do one with him in - one with him out).

3: Avengers Tower. (only Iron Man, Carol Danvers, She Hulk & Pym are there.)

[daBronzeBomma]

Pretty sure DCEU Supes gets his ass curbstomped in all 3 scenarios.

Movie versions of superheroes are almost always far more nerfed (by default) than their print counterparts.

And giving 616 Reed ANY one-sided prep pretty much ensures some device with dimension-dumping capabilities, doesn't it?

[choptop]

Pretty sure DCEU Supes gets his ass curbstomped in all 3 scenarios.

Movie versions of superheroes are almost always far more nerfed (by default) than their print counterparts.

And giving 616 Reed ANY one-sided prep pretty much ensures some device with dimension-dumping capabilities, doesn't it?

I'm not sure on 2 but can't he just Speed bletz the avengers?

[moonknight11]

I'm not sure on 2 but can't he just Speed bletz the avengers?

I don't think he has the oomph to take out shehulk and Captain marvel. Even comics iron Man is very durable.

[big_adventure]

You gave Reed "Thug Life 4eva" Richards one-sided prep. And Reed has all kinds of time shennanigans as feats permiting him to just make more time as needed. Ouch.

DCEU Supes lacks the speed to deal with Kid Gladiator, that's for certain.

[Cyke]

Just out of interest and curiosity, what are some of Kid Gladiator's feats?

[The Arbiter]

Just out of interest and curiosity, what are some of Kid Gladiator's feats?

Keeping up with and tagging QS pretty easily. Engaging in fisticuffs with Rulk and noting it as finally being a "real challenge". Dont know how that fight turned out though.

Also getting SNIKT by Wolverine lol.

[Cyke]

Keeping up with and tagging QS pretty easily. Engaging in fisticuffs with Rulk and noting it as finally being a "real challenge". Dont know how that fight turned out though.

Also getting SNIKT by Wolverine lol.

Okay, yeah. That's definitely not good for DCEU Supes

Of course, I really would like to see Kid Gladiator in other books. The few times I've read him, he's always a hoot.

[U.N. Owen]

Baxter Building: We have a woman whose shields can break through Celestial armor, a kid who can warp reality, and a hell lot of machines and geniuses that bend time space. I'm pretty sure the winner is clear.

X-Mansion: The amount of telepaths there would give him a planetary stroke at one point. Shadowcat could just phase through him in a speed blitz and, by intention or accident, remove his internal organs, adamantium is probably going to cut DCEU Superman, and that's not counting the students.

Avengers Tower: Carol can probably go toe to toe with him, probably with a ton of collateral damage. Pym is probably going to do some kind of quantum nonsense on him, and putting him on the same team as Iron Man is going to be the death of DCEU Supes.

[The Arbiter]

Baxter Building: We have a woman whose shields can break through Celestial armor, a kid who can warp reality, and a hell lot of machines and geniuses that bend time space. I'm pretty sure the winner is clear.

X-Mansion: The amount of telepaths there would give him a planetary stroke at one point. Shadowcat could just phase through him in a speed blitz and, by intention or accident, remove his internal organs, adamantium is probably going to cut DCEU Superman, and that's not counting the students.

Avengers Tower: Carol can probably go toe to toe with him, probably with a ton of collateral damage. Pym is probably going to do some kind of quantum nonsense on him, and putting him on the same team as Iron Man is going to be the death of DCEU Supes.

The Celestial thing was NOT a sign of Sue's power. It was more of a glitch. Like the powers interacted funny because they were from the same wavelength of energy or shared a common power source or something. I also intended only the FF roster with no Franklin.

Does Carol have speed feats on Supes level? Iron Man for that matter?

[big_adventure]

I'm sanguine on the chances of the Avengers roster provided for the reason you list. I don't think that DCEU Supes can hurt Carol much, but she lacks the speed to hit him. Tony... DCEU Supes might be able to hurt him, but again Tony isn't fast enough to hit a PIS-free Supes, so he's got effectively all the time in the world to try to win. I seriously doubt he can HURT current She Hulk, but again, she can't hit him, and she can't fly, so space-toss is a valid tactic. Pym dies. Too slow and nowhere near the toughness to take the blitz. It's either a stalemate or a Supes win.

[Powerboy]

Movies vs comics.

He has to attack the following strongholds.

1: Baxter Building (all FF members are there. 1 minute prep time on their side).

2: Xavier's school. Surprise attack. He gets basic knowledge of them. (pretty sure Kid Gladiator cleans up here so do one with him in - one with him out).

3: Avengers Tower. (only Iron Man, Carol Danvers, She Hulk & Pym are there.)

Reed gets one minute to prep? DCEU Superman gets stomped.

Since there's no specifics about Xavier's school, he probably gets mind controlled before he even starts.

Against these comic book Avengers, he also loses.

[The Arbiter]

Reed gets one minute to prep? DCEU Superman gets stomped.

Since there's no specifics about Xavier's school, he probably gets mind controlled before he even starts.

Against these comic book Avengers, he also loses.

I mean, is 60 seconds really enough time for Reed to grab an InstaWinGadget5000? I guess if Sue shields the lab, he gets extra time. Actually, can he even break her shield?

Specifics for Xaviers school was the surprise attack + he gets knowledge of them, but not the reverse.

[theoneandonly]

what DCEU supes should do is break out the terraforming world engine which may draw out the teams out of the strongholds to see what's up leaving them open to a sneaky super blitz attack.

[The Arbiter]

what DCEU supes should do is break out the terraforming world engine which may draw out the teams out of the strongholds to see what's up leaving them open to a sneaky super blitz attack.

I can never tell when you are being serious or not due to the sheer volume of emoticons that accompany your posts lol