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    Mighty Member moonknight11's Avatar
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    Default Composite Live Action Superhero vs Luffy

    The rubber Captain of the straw hats is facing a composite of several live action superheros. He's not facing a composite of every single one, just a select few.

    Well do 2 battles. 1 against a regular composite and 1 against a stacked aggregate.

    The heroes merged together:

    DCEU Superman
    DCEU Aquaman
    MCU Thor
    MCU Captain America
    MCU Dr. Strange
    FOX Deadpool
    FOX Nightcrawler

    Can these combined powers and equipment take on the straw hat pirate's great abilities?

    All these characters carry a bunch of weapons but the only thing the merged character gets is Caps Shield and Stormbreaker, and I guess they'll get Aquamans trident too but it's strapped across their back as an extra weapon.

    Battle takes place in MCU wakanda where banner fought Cull.

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    Hmmm... so the question that needs answering is whether Luffy is faster than Cavilman...

    Let's see, Wonder Woman was a reasonably high level bullet timer and Flash could perceive her as effectively a statue. Cavilman could sort of follow Flash but couldn't really tag him.

    Luffy sailed merrily past bullet timing a /long/ time ago and has been racking up good speed feats for some time. Luffy can also react to things before they happen through his precog ability.

    I'll assume even speed for the sake of argument for a moment.

    Strange is also a very potent guy to add to the mix, his showing against Thanos was pretty powerful, especially showcasing his ability to spam portals at will.

    They could probably just BFR him into the Mirror Dimension thing or something. That'd work.

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    You can also have portal cutting, ala Cull Obsidian. Luffy, while durable, isn't tanking that.

    Re. speed, I *think* WOD was it that Captain Kuro's speed technique *waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay* back in the first arc, which as basically "disappear from sight superspeed" was roughly equivalent to CP9's soru, only Kuro couldn't control where he was going. And Luffy, even first arc Luffy, was tagging that guy. Even assuming composite-man is faster (which I highly doubt), Luffy's been tagging people massively faster than he was since the first arc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twickster View Post

    Even assuming composite-man is faster (which I highly doubt), Luffy's been tagging people massively faster than he was since the first arc.
    Yeah, but... that's kind of the definition of PIS. Deathstroke tags the Flash with impunity; we don't say that somehow he ignores the 30 orders of magnitude difference in their speed because muffin button or something.
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    Legendary God of Pirates Nik Hasta's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    Yeah, but... that's kind of the definition of PIS. Deathstroke tags the Flash with impunity; we don't say that somehow he ignores the 30 orders of magnitude difference in their speed because muffin button or something.
    Technically it isn't.

    PIS implies that people forget powers in order to make the plot work. The PIS in Deathstroke example you cited is Flash forgetting that he can just run Deathstroke to Australia. Kuro, the primary example Twickster is mentioning, didn't forget any powers. He was specifically and emphatically trying to blitz Luffy and got tagged.

    You could try and argue that it's SMvsFL but, as Twickster noted, this is a pretty consistent thing in the series so it's not an outlier than would fall under that jurisdiction.

    Combine that with the fact that Luffy is a speedster in his own right and has, as of recent developments, actual precog into the bargain it's very much part of the character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    Technically it isn't.

    PIS implies that people forget powers in order to make the plot work. The PIS in Deathstroke example you cited is Flash forgetting that he can just run Deathstroke to Australia. Kuro, the primary example Twickster is mentioning, didn't forget any powers. He was specifically and emphatically trying to blitz Luffy and got tagged.

    You could try and argue that it's SMvsFL but, as Twickster noted, this is a pretty consistent thing in the series so it's not an outlier than would fall under that jurisdiction.

    Combine that with the fact that Luffy is a speedster in his own right and has, as of recent developments, actual precog into the bargain it's very much part of the character.
    Eh, by that argument Luffy can tag the Flash. Now, I'm all for "Luffy is as fast as Kuro" as the argument. But "Luffy can just ignore 100x speed differences 'cause Luffy" makes him very difficult to Rumble, doesn't it?
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