NFL 2019 Off-Season thread

[Scott Taylor]

Well its not as if Rosen was blindsided if he followed any NFL news at all. Still, its pretty spectacularly crazy to draft a QB in the first round two years in a row.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Well its not as if Rosen was blindsided if he followed any NFL news at all. Still, its pretty spectacularly crazy to draft a QB in the first round two years in a row.

The question now is if, or rather when, will Rosen be traded. I can't imagine the Cards keeping him around when they've made it plain by drafting Murray that they don't want him. That's only going to make for a damn uncomfortable QB room.

[Scott Taylor]

Indeed! This is why its so crucial for NFL rookies to perform well under their rookie contracts, so they can get the big second contract and basically become vested. Rosen didn't perform all that well and now he is in rookie limbo.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Indeed! This is why its so crucial for NFL rookies to perform well under their rookie contracts, so they can get the big second contract and basically become vested. Rosen didn't perform all that well and now he is in rookie limbo.

I'm not sure it was all Rosen's fault. Granted, I'm not familiar with the QB situation in Arizona (worstblogever could educate us), but I think the plan was for Rosen to redshirt and learn the ropes behind Sam Bradford, but then Bradford did what Bradford does best....get injured and Rosen was thrown into the deep end of the pool. Perhaps Rosen can resurrect his career someplace else, it won't happen in the desert.

[Jackmando7]

I hear the fins are the front runners to get Rosen. Donald, allen, and now rosen will all be in the AFC East if it happens.

[Jackmando7]

I am on the fence about the steelers picking bush. I really like the player, but I am not too happy about what they had to give up to get the 10th overall pick.

[TriggerWarning]

Unconfirmed reports out there that a deal between Miami and Arizona for Rosen is verbally agreed upon. AZ will get Miami's 2nd rd pick for Rosen.

I think this is a win for Miami and Rosen. Rosen was mired in a horrific system last year with the worst offensive line in the league so there is no real way to judge him. Now he's going to a team run by former Patriots coaches and if they can bring the thing the Patriots are best at which is adjusting their system to fit their players rather than try to force a system on players they will make this work. We saw how the right system turned Jared Goff from a bust to a superstar so hopefully this can happen here too.

[Jackmando7]

Unconfirmed reports out there that a deal between Miami and Arizona for Rosen is verbally agreed upon. AZ will get Miami's 2nd rd pick for Rosen.

I think this is a win for Miami and Rosen. Rosen was mired in a horrific system last year with the worst offensive line in the league so there is no real way to judge him. Now he's going to a team run by former Patriots coaches and if they can bring the thing the Patriots are best at which is adjusting their system to fit their players rather than try to force a system on players they will make this work. We saw how the right system turned Jared Goff from a bust to a superstar so hopefully this can happen here too.

I've also heard it actually be a 3rd rounder and a late pick which Miami should absolutely jump on, but I am not sure how reliable that info is. I personally think Rosen would have a higher ceiling than the other two 2018 QB's playing in that division, I am not a big believer in Darnold.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I'm not sure it was all Rosen's fault. Granted, I'm not familiar with the QB situation in Arizona (worstblogever could educate us), but I think the plan was for Rosen to redshirt and learn the ropes behind Sam Bradford, but then Bradford did what Bradford does best....get injured and Rosen was thrown into the deep end of the pool. Perhaps Rosen can resurrect his career someplace else, it won't happen in the desert.

Teams are now looking at the Alex Smith/Pat Mahomes situation where you ride that veteran for a year as the young rookie QB learns from him and takes the team over. The NY Giants as one example are doing that this season. But teams like Cleveland , Buffalo and Arizona had issues. The offensive line got their QB's killed fast. The talent around the QB's for the most part in Buffalo and Arizona had the young QB's struggle as they were thrown in before they were ready.

Mahomes had it so good. He had a great set of offensive coaches around him. He was allowed to grow as a QB during a season. It wasn't Rosen's fault as he didn't have a good offensive coaching staff and he was thrown in way before he was ready.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

A day after the audio was leaked to a local Kansas City TV station , the DA has re-opened the case into Tyreek Hill's situation. So basically Hill will be toast for 2019.

[TriggerWarning]

Apparently the hangup in the Rosen trade to Miami was that Arizona wanted Miami's 2nd rd pick at 48 while Miami either wanted to give up just a 3rd or get a 4th back along with Rosen. Well now Miami has traded their 2nd rd pick to the Saints and moved down to pick 62. Will it be the happy medium they can agree on?

[MRP]

Apparently the hangup in the Rosen trade to Miami was that Arizona wanted Miami's 2nd rd pick at 48 while Miami either wanted to give up just a 3rd or get a 4th back along with Rosen. Well now Miami has traded their 2nd rd pick to the Saints and moved down to pick 62. Will it be the happy medium they can agree on?

It was. The deal got done with an additional swap of later round picks and picks for next year.

-M

[BeastieRunner]

DK went to SEA.

Lol ... good luck getting your l ockerroom under control.

Post route master in the house.

[worstblogever]

I'm not sure it was all Rosen's fault. Granted, I'm not familiar with the QB situation in Arizona (worstblogever could educate us), but I think the plan was for Rosen to redshirt and learn the ropes behind Sam Bradford, but then Bradford did what Bradford does best....get injured and Rosen was thrown into the deep end of the pool. Perhaps Rosen can resurrect his career someplace else, it won't happen in the desert.

Rosen was out there earlier than he should have been, and by the point he hit the field, Arizona already had lost 4 of its 5 starting OL for the season to injury. By year's end, it was all five. It's hard to tell if Rosen's any good when there's garbage in front of him, save for Mason Cole, the backup center who looks to be a future starter.

On the upside, Patrick Peterson finally saw AZ draft a quality corner to play opposite him (and addressed the position in free agency with Robert Alford, as well). My only surprise is the kid they took out of Washington, instead of Greedy Williams from LSU, Peterson's alma mater. Then again, safety Budda Baker played at UW, so there's still some synergy.

Miami snagged him as a project, and if he fails all year, they're still lined up to get Tua in 2020.

[PwrdOn]

Rosen was out there earlier than he should have been, and by the point he hit the field, Arizona already had lost 4 of its 5 starting OL for the season to injury. By year's end, it was all five. It's hard to tell if Rosen's any good when there's garbage in front of him, save for Mason Cole, the backup center who looks to be a future starter.

On the upside, Patrick Peterson finally saw AZ draft a quality corner to play opposite him (and addressed the position in free agency with Robert Alford, as well). My only surprise is the kid they took out of Washington, instead of Greedy Williams from LSU, Peterson's alma mater. Then again, safety Budda Baker played at UW, so there's still some synergy.

Miami snagged him as a project, and if he fails all year, they're still lined up to get Tua in 2020.

So pretty much the plan is to throw Murray out there with the same garbage line and expect that his magical feet will somehow keep him alive.