Revanche: Kwannon/Psylocke II appreciation 2019

[Harpsikord]

It's my biggest complaint. I will never not trash that outfit.

Same. I'd love to see her get something that resembles an actual kunoichi. Or, at the least, put her in something like what Taki from Soul Calibur wears. Skin tight and sexy still, but not a thongkini.

[danielsan52]

I’d love to see a complete overhaul of her Psylocke look.

Something influenced by Maki Nomiya perhaps.

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[Londo Bellian]

Same. I'd love to see her get something that resembles an actual kunoichi. Or, at the least, put her in something like what Taki from Soul Calibur wears. Skin tight and sexy still, but not a thongkini.

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At least it's not putting Kwannon in the above character's sister's (initial) garb instead, or her arch-enemy's.

[Izanami]

I’d love to see a complete overhaul of her Psylocke look.

Something influenced by Maki Nomiya perhaps.

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I like the suggestion.

[Harpsikord]

This is what I was imagining.

[Londo Bellian]

With Betsy and Kwannon both distinct persons, I'm wondering about their possible BGMs/leitmotifs. I'm talking about Capcom and the sweet themes they cooked up for Psylocke. There are two prominent tunes. Now which would you give to Kwannon and which ought to remain connected to Betsy?

First is this BGM for the side-scrolling beat-em-up "X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse" on SNES (which got a promotional one-off comic-book adaptation, IIRC).


Second is the Psylocke theme for the fighting games, namely "X-Men: Children of the Atom" and "Marvel Super Heroes."

Which of these do you want for Kwannon? Betsy can keep the other.

[Factor]

I loved he first issue. Finally Kwannon can become a real character.
I do still hate how she's keeping Betsy's old clothes and codename, but those are obviously editorial mandates.

[franckd]

I loved he first issue. Finally Kwannon can become a real character.
I do still hate how she's keeping Betsy's old clothes and codename, but those are obviously editorial mandates.

Yes. Kawnnon (who doesn't be called Kwannon) was mostly a plot device than a character most of the times (well I can't say all the time, as I gave up reading X-Books for years) so it's quite nice that she's finally getting what seems to be a big character development and background.

Anyway, she's Psylocke now, so I understand that she's keeping the most famous Psylocke suit (and name) for marketing reasons. I don't mind, as a book needs too sell. I don't want it to be cancelled, at least not soon, as there are obviously some stories to be told.

[Killerbee911]

I loved he first issue. Finally Kwannon can become a real character.
I do still hate how she's keeping Betsy's old clothes and codename, but those are obviously editorial mandates.

The clothes is Kwannon own, the code name is Betsy. The purple bikini is Hand ninja gear just like Electra. The keeping of the name is the ultimate piece of petty by Kwannon.

[Gylfie]

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This is what I was imagining.

That is nice. Love it.

I loved the first issue. It made me want to read more about Kwannon.

[Sutekh]

I had thought maybe that now Kwannon was back in her original body, we'd see more of the original pre-body/mindswap character, a non-mutant Hand assassin with no special powers (yet formidable nonetheless), a la Elektra, but, inexplicably, her old body has somehow become a telepathic mutant, despite being, IIRC, neither a telepath nor a mutant, before the swap with Betsy...

Weird.

She's taken Betsy's name as Psylocke, as well, which would have been a funny choice if she lost the 'psi' she borrowed from Betsy's mutant body (and should, theoretically, have lost when she transferred back to a non-mutant body) in the swap. I guess she's now a mutant? Krakoa seems to be okay with her presence on the island...

[Killerbee911]

I had thought maybe that now Kwannon was back in her original body, we'd see more of the original pre-body/mindswap character, a non-mutant Hand assassin with no special powers (yet formidable nonetheless), a la Elektra, but, inexplicably, her old body has somehow become a telepathic mutant, despite being, IIRC, neither a telepath nor a mutant, before the swap with Betsy...

Weird.

She's taken Betsy's name as Psylocke, as well, which would have been a funny choice if she lost the 'psi' she borrowed from Betsy's mutant body (and should, theoretically, have lost when she transferred back to a non-mutant body) in the swap. I guess she's now a mutant? Krakoa seems to be okay with her presence on the island...

She was empath before Betsy body so she was probably a mutant. The rest of the stuff is so convoluted, I get fans love continuity but they are some stuff but somethings need to be hard rebooted to be told more cleanly but since Marvel isn't going do that we have to settle for soft retcons. I will bet that Fallen Angels will soft retcon some more stuff between Betsy and Kwannon and ignore past stuff. They already done a soft retcon by making Kwannon aware inside of Betsy functionally making Kwannon apart of all Betsy history. Don't be surprised if Betsy more dark urges was Kwannon influence inside trying to break free at times.

[WallStreeter]

I had thought maybe that now Kwannon was back in her original body, we'd see more of the original pre-body/mindswap character, a non-mutant Hand assassin with no special powers (yet formidable nonetheless), a la Elektra, but, inexplicably, her old body has somehow become a telepathic mutant, despite being, IIRC, neither a telepath nor a mutant, before the swap with Betsy...

Weird.

She's taken Betsy's name as Psylocke, as well, which would have been a funny choice if she lost the 'psi' she borrowed from Betsy's mutant body (and should, theoretically, have lost when she transferred back to a non-mutant body) in the swap. I guess she's now a mutant? Krakoa seems to be okay with her presence on the island...

It was explicitly stated that she was originally an empath before the body swap, so she was always a mutant.

Spiral also genetically modified both Kwannon and Psylocke’s bodies.

Elizabeth Braddock permanently gained Kwannon’s fighting skills and even her psi weapons are Kwannon’s influence. Kwannon permanently gained her powers.

Betsy actually gained telekinesis from Jean Grey while she was in Kwannon’s body.

Potentially any mutant with mental powers can develop the whole range of mental powers.

[WallStreeter]

so it should be: Kwannon/Revanche/Psylocke II appreciation thread.

Yes. And so it was changed.

[WallStreeter]

Yeah, it was basically a very 90's take (more skin/less practical) on Elektra's old uniform.

I liked issue 1, had a few issues with the art in some spots but I'm thinking maybe it's meant to be a bit messy in spots considering Kwannon's mind atm. It felt a bit more like Remenders X-Force to me compared to the volume that came afterwards.

Wearing the bathing suit is just Marvel being lazy I feel. Hill can say it's tied into her taking on Betsy's old codename since Kwannon apparently has no name or since of identity apparently even before the body swap, but it's a meh point.

Wouldn't be surprised if putting her in the uniform was mandated by higher ups in editorial. That way people who aren't aware of the reversion will pick up the book thinking that it's Betsy, not Kwannon. Most legacy characters at least get new takes on classic uniforms, homages, if not their own.

She does have a real name that will be revealed.