Original x-men (o5) appreciation thread

[Havok83]

Incidentally, Claremont wrote it? I thought he didn't join the book until 1975?

Roy Thomas wrote that issue, not Claremont. He did work as an intern at Marvel during that time before becoming writer in 1975. I believe Claremont came up with the ending by tossing the idea around but he wasnt credited in the book as he didnt script it

[Samurai32]

Roy Thomas wrote that issue, not Claremont. He did work as an intern at Marvel during that time before becoming writer in 1975. I believe Claremont came up with the ending by tossing the idea around but he wasnt credited in the book as he didnt script it

This is correct. Chris came up with the idea explaining the Sentinels' final action.

[phoenixzero23]

They'll be doing that this fall

I would wish that so much.
They all have interacted very little. So many posibilities and cool interactions unexplored. Sadly Marvel prefers drama.
I wish than we could have seen more of them as a family when Jean and Scott were still married.
I hope that the concept doesn't die.

[Havok83]

Speaking of families, it sucks that Marvel did nothing with Teen Hank when he came to the future. They addressd Jean, Scott and Bobby as best they could but Warren and Hank went ignored. I dont believe Warren has any family left, but Hank's still is and I dont think he ever reach out to them

[LostZargatan]

They'll be doing that this fall

I hope so. That cover would indicate some level of interaction but it seems Marvel prefers controversy

[Digifiend]

Speaking of families, it sucks that Marvel did nothing with Teen Hank when he came to the future. They addressd Jean, Scott and Bobby as best they could but Warren and Hank went ignored. I dont believe Warren has any family left, but Hank's still is and I dont think he ever reach out to them

Didn't Xavier feed the McCoys a false story and erase everyone's memories of Hank using his mutant powers? If so, them meeting Teen Hank could be a problem.

[Havok83]

Didn't Xavier feed the McCoys a false story and erase everyone's memories of Hank using his mutant powers? If so, them meeting Teen Hank could be a problem.

which is what would make for a good storyline

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Uncanny X-Men #7 Sep 1964
"The Return of the Blob" First appearance of Cerebro
The X-Men graduate from Xavier's school and the Professor tells them that he is taking a leave of absence;

He puts Cyclops in charge while he is away and shows him his new mutant detecting machine, Cerebro;
Magneto tracks down the Blob and invites him to join the Brotherhood;
During a scuffle, Xavier's mental blocks dissolve and Blob remembers the secret of the X-Men;
As this happens, the Blob's name lights up on Cerebro and Scott calls
the X-Men away from a day of relaxation and back to battle with the evil mutants;

During the battle with the Brotherhood, Magneto shoots missiles at the X-Men, even though the Blob
is in the line of fire, and the hefty mutant, feeling betrayed, decides to return to carnival life.

Script by Stan Lee, pencils by Jack Kirby, inks by Chic Stone

[gambitxremy]

So the original x-men

Leaders Xavier,

Secret silent partners Moira, and magneto

Team is cyclops, Marvel girl, iceman, angel, beast,

Secret spy Sage

Am I missing anyone

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Fred Duncan (X-Men's FBI liaison)

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Uncanny X-Men #60 Sep 1969
"In the Shadow of...Sauron!" First appearance of Sauron
Continued from last issue...

Following their battle with the Sentinels, the X-Men leave Larry Trask and Judge Chalmers to free the other captured mutants.
Chalmers noticing that Larry has lapsed into a state of shock puts

the power blocking medallion back on Larry in the hopes of restoring him to normal and making him forget everything that has transpired.
As the X-Men return home to get Alex medical treatment,

Lorna decides that her place is to be with the X-Men in light of recent events and she is accepted into the group.

Upon returning to New York City, Scott and Jean turn Alex over to Dr. Karl Lykos,
a doctor who uses hypnosis to help deal with patients mentally and physically.
Needing to work in private, Scott and Jean leave Lykos to do his work and return to the X-Mansion.
There they are almost blasted with lasers when the safety door to the Danger Room swings open.
Inside, Lorna is watching Beast, Warren and Iceman go through a training session.
When the session gets out of hand, Cyclops steps in and things end with Iceman once more tossing snow in someone’s face.
With the session over, the X-Men comment on the mutants that were captured during their battle
against the Sentinels and Hank points out the absence of both Magneto and the Changeling.

While at the office of Dr. Lykos, after treating Alex's physical wounds, Karl sends his nurse home
and struggles with some strange addiction that has come over him.
He recalls back to when he was a young boy and was on an expedition with his father,
his associate Mr. Anderssen and his young daughter Tanya in the Antarctic regions of Tierra Del Fuego.
When Tanya goes missing, a search party is sent out and young Karl finds her in
a cave being attacked by strange pterodactyls that live within the icy cavern.
Although Karl saves Tanya from the creatures, one of them manages to wound him.
Given medical attention right away, the young Karl was near death and in a fever state for a long time before recovering.
When he did, he was greeted by his dog Jagger. To his horror, upon touching the dog,
Karl began siphoning the dog’s energy and realized that he has become some kind of energy vampire.
Growing up over the years, Karl would keep this need a secret,
and as a young adult he and Tanya would fall in love and begin talking of marriage.
However, Mr. Anderssen would not consent to their marriage unless Karl learned
a profession that would allow him to provide for Tanya and so he went on to medical school.
Determined to make a fortune, the obsessed Lykos vows to do anything to marry Tanya.

Lykos hooks Alex up to the machine. He is aware that Xavier had opened a school for mutants prior to his death
and correctly deduces Alex to be a mutant. Lykos had helped Xavier in the early days in hope of feeding off mutant’s life energy.
Trying this for the first time, Lykos feeds off Alex's mutant energy and it has a strange effect.
Lykos transforms into a humanoid pterodactyl that is the embodiment of evil.
Recalling his human persona's love of the writings of J.R.R. Tolkien, the creature christens itself Sauron and flies off into the night.

When reports come in of a winged being suspected to be a mutant robbing, the X-Men contemplate investigating the situation.
Furious that a winged being is giving him a bad name, Warren storms out of the room and returns later wearing his old
Avenging Angel costume and decides to go and investigate the situation on his own so he flies off before anyone can stop him.

With Warren potentially flying into even more trouble, Cyclops orders the other X-Men to get ready to follow after him.
Warren manages to track down Sauron. However, when he tries to attack the creature,
Sauron unleashes a hypnotic gaze that enthralls Warren into obedience.

Script by Roy Thomas, pencils by Neal Adams, inks by Tom Palmer

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X-Factor #44 Sep 1989
Judgement War! Part 2 of 7. "Another World!"
Continued from last issue...

With X-Factor separated on an alien world when they were teleported into the middle of a battle between the Chosen and the Rejects,
Cyclops finds himself alone in the evacuated battlefield as Gammenon the Celestial slowly descends on the area.
Unable to stop the giant cosmic being with his optic blast, Cyclops instead
decides to try to blast a hole in the ground deep enough to avoid getting crushed.

Meanwhile, the Beast has fled with the Rejects along with one of their warriors Zharkah.

When Zharkah wonders what tribe Beast has come from, Hank considers that she may not be able to
understand the concept that he came from another world decides to pretend that he has partial amnesia.
Zharkah believes this and thinks that his mind has been partially wiped by one of the Chosen's Jammers.

This allows Hank to ask questions about he conflict between
the genetically pure Chosen, and the mutates known as the Rejects
and the fact that the "space god" that has arrived on their world has come for
yet another test of their world, one which Zharkah believes they will not pass.
Arriving at the Reject village, Beast is shown that they live in tall platforms suspended over their refuse.
He is shown Old Vlon, a powerful Telekinetic that was mind wiped by a Jammer.
Beast also meets Zharkah's child and sees the grief of the pregnant reject Wilghe
when she learns that her husband Zheops had died in the battle.
As Zharkah goes to aid the grieving widow, she tells Beast to go and get some food.
As Hank wanders away, he considers the parallels on this world with human mutant relations on Earth.

Upon thinking about the fate of his comrades, Beast wonders how the Chosen would view
his comrade Archangel who is mostly human if not for his blue skin and metallic wings.

If Beast could look upon his friends fate, he would learn that Warren is a prisoner of the Chosen and has his wings restrained in a plastic restraint
as Princess Seera and Lord Rask and one of the Chosens scientists try to make sense out of why a "Reject" would save the Princess in combat.
They refuse to believe Warren's stories that he has no idea what the conflict was about, or that he is from another world.
When Rask intends to put Warren into the arena, Warren breaks free and attempts to flee.
However Rask manages to incapacitate Warren again with his force blasts.
Witnessing this display, the Princess can't help but find Warren's display magnificent.
All present believe that Seera was speaking of Rask except for her robot ZZ-105.
Zee-Zee points this out when they are walking away from the lab alone, and although the Princess
struggles to understand it she can't help but wonder what her feelings about the encounter are.
When she begins talking of the stories Zee-Zee told her as a child about how children used to be birthed
the robot warns her not to tell anyone that it told her such tales and insists that they are false.

When a supply robot zips past them, Seera and Zee-Zee go into another lab where another scientist is examining Iceman with Lev watching over.
Confusing him for a "Dueler", a class of the Chosen with an alternate form,
and Lev is mocked for attacking one of her own in battle when she confused him for a Reject.
When the scientist finds no records, they dismiss him as probably being a member of some outer colony that is bad at keeping records.
When Bobby revives, they begin trying to ask him questions, but find that he has amnesia.
When he attempts to reach out and touch the princess -- an act that is forbidden -- the scientist knocks him out before he can.
He then turns Bobby over to Lev to try and stir his memory.

While back at the site of the battlefield, Gammenon has left leaving giant foot prints in his wake.
Cyclops manages to blast his way out to the surface and finds a green skinned telepath waiting for him.
The man asks Scott if he is one of the Chosen or a Reject.
Scott tells him that he is from a far away world and that his friends are missing.
Helped out of the pit, Cyclops begins calling out to his friends, however the humanoid
tells him it's ultimately useless as there is nobody around and invites him to follow.
As Cyclops is led away, he wonders what became of his friends, and most importantly, his son Christopher.

Back at the Chosen's citadel, Seera looks over the vats of genetic material that they use to create new members of their race.
She remarks over how fewer and fewer batches of these artificially created people come out pure enough to live in their society, or alive for that matter.
When a sci-bot overhears Seera talking about how it must have been "better" when children are born biologically it begins demanding answers.
However she threatens to send it off for repairs in order to keep it quiet and send it on it's way.
She is then met by Father-Sun, the man who recovered young Christopher Summers from the battle field.
Feeling an instant maternal love for the child she offers Father-Sun Zee-Zee's entire supply of mood altering drugs in exchange for the child.
When he turns around to get the bounty of narcotics, Seera uses her own jamming powers to make Father-Sun forget about the child completely.
Not wanting to have to give the child up to the scientists, Seera hides young
Christopher within Zee-Zee so that she can smuggle the boy back to her quarters.

Back at the home of the Rejects, Beast is joined by Zharkah whom he begins asking if anyone has seen his friends.
When he begins describing Marvel Girl to Zharkah, the Reject wonders if he is referring to the
"Chosen" woman they have captured after jamming and is now locked up in one of their dungeons.
Finding Beast's questions suspicious she decides to keep this bit of information from him to see what else she can learn from him.
Beast himself decides it's best to continue to keep up his feigned amnesia in order to get the answers he wants.
Turning his attentions to a shooting star he wonders how their Ship is faring since it was captured by the Celestials.
High above the planet, Ship is continuing to explain to Gammenon about it's origins that it's known about since it's come online.
However, the massive Celestial doesn't seem to be satisfied with the tale and as Ship continues to probe deeper into his data banks he
comes to consider that it might not have been built by Apocalypse, but by some other force all together and decides to tell it's tale again.

Scott is led to an underground cavern where he is introduced to the Beginagains, a group of Rejects and Chosen
who have come to realize that unity is the only way for either of their races to survive.
They explain to Scott that the arrival of the "Space God" Gammenon was ordained
as the Celestials have come to their planet many times to judge it's inhabitance.
In every previous encounter, they have been deemed worthy to continue.

However, Zalph has had a preventative flash that suggests that this time, they might not be so lucky.

Story by Louise Simonson http://www.comicsreporter.com/index....uise_simonson/. Art by Paul Smith and Al Milgrom.

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X-Factor #45 Oct 1989
Judgement War! Part 3 of 7. "Arena!"
Continued from last issue...

Archangel, believed to be one of this alien world's Rejects, has been forced to enter
an arena where the Chosen force Rejects to engage in gladiatorial combat and place bets.
Archangel is the "property" of Lord Rask, a Chosen nobleman who stands to gain great wealth from the coming battle should Archangel win.
Warren refuses to fight, however his opponent the Reject named Agrom has no such compunctions as he only wishes to survive.
He attacks Warren savagely, however the winged mutant only defends himself. When Warren refuses to fight,
the Chosen unleash a swarm of devices called Goads -- devices that when attached to a being, ramps up their aggressions.
This forces Warren to fight and easily defeat Agrom in combat. During the fight, some of the Goads get knocked off Warren
and when the audience cheers for him to kill Agrom, Warren refuses to do so.
When he attempts to escape by flying out of the arena, a forcefield prevents him from doing so.

Princess Seera, witnessing the fight, becomes even more confused over her feelings for
the Archangel -- finding him noble and majestic which goes against the Chosen's contempt for the Rejects.
Rask makes a killing in the bets, and when he sneers at Lev and Bobby, Iceman becomes angry for being treated as a second class citizen
due to the fact that he is thought to be a Dueler, and is determined to get into a fight with Rask until Lev calms him down enough.
Witnessing this, Seera notes that she has never seen Bobby before and wonders if Archangel's claims of being
from another world is where this "Dueler" and the strange baby that she now has in her possession came from.
In wondering about the baby, she wonders where it's mother might be.

Marvel Girl is a prisoner of the Rejects, who since being attacked by a Jammer, has been in a catatonic state.
When the guards go in to check on her, they doubt much success in her being able to recover from the attack.
Elsewhere in the Reject village, Beast -- unaware that MG is the captive of the Rejects -- helps
Zharkah go through scavenged supplies and find items that they can use for Whilge's coming baby.
They are soon alerted that Whilge is giving birth at that moment and go to her side to witness the moment.
When Hank refers to child birth as a miracle, Zharkah corrects him that on this bleak world a birth is more
of a tragedy as even if the newborn child manages to live, it will live in a world of constant war and strife.
Almost in response to this Whilge's horrified when her newborn child dies suddenly.
Soon a funeral service is quickly organized and performed for the late Zheopah, and her body is put ablaze on a funeral pyre.

When Beast suggests that they use technology to try and improve the genetic defects in the Rejects,
Zharkah becomes suspicious of the Beast and tells him that such uses of technology is forbidden as it is what the Chosen use to reproduce.

While at the citadel of the Chosen, Princess Seera breaks into the breeding labs,
using her Jamming powers to mask her presence so that she can steal nutrient to take back to young Christopher Summers.
Along the way through the sewers she runs into a guard who has come to investigate the "blankness" surrounding the area.
Not wishing to get caught, she attacks him with her Jamming ability
but fears she has used them too strongly and alerted others of her presence.
As she flees the scene to avoid capture she wonders why the Chosen have
not trained themselves to use their powers for anything other than combat.
She returns to her quarters to find that young Christopher is crying,
however the child's tears subside when she feeds him the nutrient.
She has decided that at the first opportunity she must move the child out of the city.
With the little boy in her arms, Seera marvels at the possibility that this is a child from another world
and wonders that if she were ever to meet the boys parents, would she be able to give the child back.

Cyclops meanwhile exits the cave of the Beginagains with Dykon where Gammenon is once more on the planets surface outside their cave.

As they watch the giant Celestial, Scott reiterates his need to find his missing friends, and Dykon reminds Scott
of the conflict between the Rejects and Chosen and the Beginagains' desire to reunite both peoples to save their planet.

Dykon, suggests that with Cyclops's help, they may be able to do just that.

While back at the home of the Rejects, Zharkah announces that young Nikoh
has developed his Reject born abilities, the power to light things on fire.
When word about the "Reject" Archangel's victory in the arena word returned to the village by spies Beast
tells the gathered Rejects that Archangel is a member of his "tribe", X-Factor and rallies them to plan an attack on the Chosen's city.
As Beast and the others rush off to make plans, Zharkah watches the scene with increasing suspicion.

Back in the Chosen's citadel, Iceman and Lev pit their powers together and Bobby gloats that the only way Lev was
able to "defeat" him in battle previously was due to the fact he was caught off guard from a supposed Jammer attack.
When he traps her in a block of ice, he gets her to yield, however she still believes that she can beat him in combat.
When Lord Rask enters the room and mocks them for being Duelers, Bobby stands up to this and challenges Rask to a duel.
In a one-on-one fight, Iceman manages to defeat Rask by knocking the lord down and pinning his arms down with ice.
With the victory, Lev wins a hardy wager and Rask then challenges Iceman to go up against the "Reject" champion, Archangel.
Bobby accepts this challenge, however he feels uneasy when he learns that Lev bet money that she doesn't have on the fight.

While in the dungeons Archangel revives to find that Agrom is still alive and is surprised.
He begins to tell Agrom about how he was transformed into the Archangel
and manipulated by someone and that his wings have a mind of their own.
He also tells the Reject that he has made a vow never to be controlled by anyone
ever again and swears that once he is freed himself he will destroy all the Chosen.
Unknown to Warren his words are being monitored by Seera who has used her jamming powers to sneak into the monitoring room.
She is worried that Archangel is poised to fight his friend from another world, and wonders what she can
do to help him, and considers that if she does anything to free him, he might destroy her entire kingdom.

Story by Louise Simonson. Art by Paul Smith and Al Milgrom.

[gambitxremy]

When did tempus go back in time to go on a mission with Charles to change the future?
What issue of the original x-men run by Stan and jack did that happen in?

[gambitxremy]

So the original x-men

Leaders Xavier,

Secret silent partners Moira, and magneto

Team is cyclops, Marvel girl, iceman, angel, beast,

Secret spy Sage

Xavier and Moira both have legion and proteus

Namor some where fits in all this also