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    Default I don’t like that Batman is a ninja. I can’t see vintage comic on it only Anim?

    One thing I don’t like about the dark knight is him being a Ninja - I love ninja movies (American Ninja)
    I see in 1992 it was still Anim concept not a comic book concept?
    I think his fighting should of been kept as simply his fighting skills as it adds a more mythical side to him .

    Being a ninja now it puts him more in a real life context to much,
    Is there actually a vintage comic that says his a ninja? - if not I think it’s a mistake to add to much of a normal everyday human outlook on his fighting skills. Does anyone agree?

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    Batman isn't a ninja. he is a fencer like his idol Zorro and a wrestler like his teenage super powered spider version with a dash of the shadow boxer and a touch of manhunter plus a healthy dose of detective with the trimmings of a mixed marital arts fighter added to the mixture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneandonly View Post
    Batman isn't a ninja. he is a fencer like his idol Zorro and a wrestler like his teenage super powered spider version with a dash of the shadow boxer and a touch of manhunter plus a healthy dose of detective with the trimmings of a mixed marital arts fighter added to the mixture.
    I just googled Batman and Zorro. That brave and the bold comic looks cool as I might see if I can buy it.
    And so it was a mistake then in Batman begins to have him training Ninja?

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    Boy are you gonna hate the movie Batman Ninja.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babybats View Post
    Boy are you gonna hate the movie Batman Ninja.
    Yeah what I was looking for was a vintage Batman ninja comic - if there was one I would accept the ninja concept.
    Yes that movie came up In google search - I shall avoid.

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    Yeah what I don’t like is that it makes it plausible- You become a billionaire then buy build and hire someone to make the gadgets and equipment then train to be a ninja. I like theoneandonlys description multiple events transpired for him to have these amazing fighting abilities- I think his ability of flight needs to be taken into account to. He is beyond ninja.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batmanquestion View Post
    Yeah what I was looking for was a vintage Batman ninja comic - if there was one I would accept the ninja concept.
    Yes that movie came up In google search - I shall avoid.
    Well there is this one

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    "The Elseworlds Annuals, the DC Universe's journey into remote realms of possibility, continue in 19th century Japan, where Robin is a young ninja who must fight to protect his daimyo's life from the cult of assassins that killed his mentor."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batmanquestion View Post
    I just googled Batman and Zorro. That brave and the bold comic looks cool as I might see if I can buy it.
    And so it was a mistake then in Batman begins to have him training Ninja?
    In the later comics he does have martial arts training with the league. Don't think he is an actual Ninja. Not sure.

    I like him doing the silent vanish and having the martial skills. Plus ninja's are stealth so it seems a fitting skill for him to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dietrich View Post
    In the later comics he does have martial arts training with the league. Don't think he is an actual Ninja. Not sure.

    I like him doing the silent vanish and having the martial skills. Plus ninja's are stealth so it seems a fitting skill for him to have.
    If they avoided the fact he was trained at all. He simply is fighting his mythical Batman style.
    I like the Idea of that, but yeah ninjas are kewl and stealth it does fit your right.
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    He's not a ninja exactly, but he is very ninja-like and has some actual ninja training. I like the ninja thing, it adds an extra facet to the awesome that is Batman - wealthy ninja detective race car driver jet pilot globe trotting city dwelling urban survivalist gadget using superhero. And that's all just off the top of my head. Like if Sherlock Holmes, James Bond, Zorro, a ninja, Evel Kneivel (sp), and some other neat concepts all had a kid, you'd get Batman. Ninja is just the most recent addition to that crazy, impossible mix, kind of like how the James Bond elements got added around the time Ras al Ghul showed up. Give it another decade or so and we might be discussing some other addition to the mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoneandonly View Post
    Batman isn't a ninja. he is a fencer like his idol Zorro
    Except Zorro ("his Idol") wasn't just a fencer as you say. Zorro had and was known for incredible cunning, stealth skills too, used, darkens, stealth, fear, superstition, all as his weapons.

    1919-1920 first movie descriptions of Zorro, which influenced Kane and Finger:




    As well as irregular warfare against his enemies, plus the arsenal of classic physical weapons, around his belt.
    Sword, throwing daggers, whip for attack, climbing, swinging, as well as explosives, and black powder pistolas.
    Does that mke him a ninja no, but pretty damn close to the Pirate/Western equivalent.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Batmanquestion View Post
    IHe simply is fighting his mythical Batman style.
    I like the Idea of that, but yeah ninjas are kewl and stealth it does fit your right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Restingvoice View Post
    I think the ninja idea came from Batman using the night and shadow to stalk his target, appearing and disappearing without everyone knowing, using smoke pellets and martial arts, and being good at wearing a disguise.

    So like the others said, originally the idea came from Zorro, and while he appears suddenly he often fights his enemies head-on, ...
    I like him doing the silent vanish and having the martial skills. Plus ninja's are stealth so it seems a fitting skill for him to have.
    Absolutely!

    As well both took the identities of small, dark, cunning, nocturnal survival animals, as their power totem/symbol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Güicho View Post
    Except Zorro ("his Idol") wasn't just a fencer as you say. Zorro had and was known for incredible cunning, stealth skills too, used, darkens, stealth, fear, superstition, all as his weapons.
    As well as irregular warfare against his enemies, plus the arsenal of classic physical weapons, around his belt.
    Sword, throwing daggers, whip for attack, climbing, swinging, as well as explosives, and black powder pistolas.

    1919-1920 first movie descriptions of Zorro, which influenced Kane and Finger:








    Absolutely!

    As well both took the identities of small, dark, cunning, nocturnal survival animals, as their power totem/symbol.
    sure he can do all those things you say but the main thing he is known for his fencing which is the core of his character and describes him in a nutshell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batmanquestion View Post
    I just googled Batman and Zorro. That brave and the bold comic looks cool as I might see if I can buy it.
    Uh, are you referring to this issue?



    If so, good luck finding it.

    As far I'm aware, it doesn't really exist (except in somebody's dreams).

    SEE: https://braveandboldlost.blogspot.co...and-zorro.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    Uh, are you referring to this issue?



    If so, good luck finding it.

    As far I'm aware, it doesn't really exist (except in somebody's dreams).

    SEE: https://braveandboldlost.blogspot.co...and-zorro.html
    Oh , okay yeah thanks . I did try to find and buy it on eBay ect. I figured it might have been a limited edition, or rare. I never figured it wasn’t real. What a shame. Thanks for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batmanquestion View Post
    One thing I don’t like about the dark knight is him being a Ninja - I love ninja movies (American Ninja)
    I see in 1992 it was still Anim concept not a comic book concept?
    I think his fighting should of been kept as simply his fighting skills as it adds a more mythical side to him .

    Being a ninja now it puts him more in a real life context to much,
    Is there actually a vintage comic that says his a ninja? - if not I think it’s a mistake to add to much of a normal everyday human outlook on his fighting skills. Does anyone agree?
    So, I take it you didn't like this?


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