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    Default Ethan Van Sciver blames wb for dc layoffs and only 1900 comic shops remain

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    Ethan Van Sciver blames wb for dc layoffs, Here’s everything he speaks concerning the film
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    “Decisions were made to have Joss Whedon come in and finish the movie. Joss Whedon didn’t like what he saw, apparently, and asked for close to $300 million from what I’ve heard. If you have better information about this, let me known, but he basically asked for an enormous, almost equal to the original production budget to reshoot and to finish Justice League. The Zack Snyder movie. [Whedon] made it into something else. The movie was a catastrophe. And it was an expensive catastrophe. It lost an awful lot of money.”


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    “You have to imagine what spending close to $700 million on a movie and losing hundreds of millions of dollars on a movie can do to people, can do to their jobs. Shortly after, Diane [Nelson] took a break. Diane never came back. She announced she was staying gone. Geoff Johns, I think, also took some of the blame for the Justice League movie, and he lost his position there. Others at DC have who were involved with the Justice League movie also lost their jobs, lost their positions. The effects are still rippling.”
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    That on top of the fact that the comic book industry is collapsing under the weight of apathy at this point. In 2016, there were 2306 comic book stores, now there are 1900. Comic book stores are closing down and going out of business at a startling and frightening right. Once we reach the critical mass of 1500 retailers, for companies like DC and Marvel to solicit their product to, it will no longer be viable. All during this collapse, DC and Marvel have employed price hikes, they have employed various gimmick scams. I mean I call them scams, that is what I think they are. A retailers job is to look at the product that they are being offered and then kind of decide based on what they know about their customer base, the people who come into their store and what they buy, how many copies of each one of these comic books that they should provide on their stands, for complete sell-through. Nobody wants to be stuck with this product, you know two weeks after its date it has gone cold. At this points comics are like bread, they have a sell-by date, and they go stale and people do not buy them when they go stale. That is the situation with comics now.
    https://cosmicbook.news/justice-leag...ure-dc-layoffs

    https://heroichollywood.com/dc-comics-layoffs-justice-league

    accordingly. that is probably there will continue further layoffs if WB and including DC squanders. there will be meeting on Thursday. there be more update.


    DC previously lost Millions of Dollars not only DC But WB as well. because of too numerous titles like both regular and variant covers. variant covers are a loss of money and too many titles are a waste of money even too many Bat-titles. even 500 or it is 5000 dark knight variant covers?

    in the past, there were 3000 comic shops and today only 1900 comic shops remain. what happens?


    DC is eliminating complimentary digital copies of greatest of their comic books though will be experimenting among them toward greater-profile projects.


    I hope WB And DC better act fast or DC will manage to bankruptcy court near the future.

    is that why Titans and other titles canceled? because I read somewhere that says DC plans decline titles
    I could be wrong.

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    I don't exactly know why Van Sciver would know this sort of insider information, considering that he was merely a middle tier comic book artist when he worked for DC, but this rings true to me.

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    They'd save a lot of lot of money if they'd transition some of their bigwigs over to Janitorial Services.

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    I'm very skeptical. Why would WB just agree to give Whedon an extra 300 million? To make back close to 700 million, the movie would've likely had to get 2.5 ish times that at the box office, so 1.75 billion. I highly doubt anyone thought that would happen. Wasn't it reported that the movie was budgeted at 250 million and reshots were an extra 50 million?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lirica View Post
    I'm very skeptical. Why would WB just agree to give Whedon an extra 300 million? To make back close to 700 million, the movie would've likely had to get 2.5 ish times that at the box office, so 1.75 billion. I highly doubt anyone thought that would happen. Wasn't it reported that the movie was budgeted at 250 million and reshots were an extra 50 million?
    Yeah, I don't believe for a minute that Whedon got $300 million. Apparantly, it's only what Van Sciver "heard."

    This seems more like a fish story where with each retelling, the Joss Whedon budget gets bigger and bigger.

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    Anyway, here's Ethan Van Sciver's full statement. It's actually from his YouTube channel.

    Van Sciver also thinks there will be layoffs on the creative end eventually as well.

    What do you think of Van Sciver's comments in the video?

    DC Comics cuts 3% of its staff, as the SJW converged Comics Biz continues its decline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lirica View Post
    I'm very skeptical. Why would WB just agree to give Whedon an extra 300 million? To make back close to 700 million, the movie would've likely had to get 2.5 ish times that at the box office, so 1.75 billion. I highly doubt anyone thought that would happen. Wasn't it reported that the movie was budgeted at 250 million and reshots were an extra 50 million?
    Yep. What Van Civer is saying here doesn't make any sense. I mean, anyone thinking of spending anywhere close to 700 million on a film should be given a pink slip immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Darknight Detective View Post
    Yep. What Van Civer is saying here doesn't make any sense. I mean, anyone thinking of spending anywhere close to 700 million on a film should be given a pink slip immediately.
    Maybe it doesn't make any sense because he has no idea what he's talking about and just spouts nonsense to his fans that'll buy into literally anything he says?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Hunter View Post
    I don't exactly know why Van Sciver would know this sort of insider information, considering that he was merely a middle tier comic book artist when he worked for DC, but this rings true to me.
    Ethan Van Sciver, the guy on the ground floor of the racist Comicsgate called variants a scam. How many variant covers did he draw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenknight2018 View Post
    in the past, there were 3000 comic shops and today only 1900 comic shops remain. what happens?
    When you visit a comic book store what do you SEE? 95% of the stuff in that store can be bought CHEAPER elsewhere. Especially from certain places that offer perks.

    Funko Pop toys. Gamestop is/was doing a sell on them buy 3 get 1 FREE.
    Barnes & Nobles-if you get their e-mails-you get 10-20% off coupons. And Funko Pop are price LOWER than most comic book stores.
    Target-if you have a Target Card you get 5% off you total purchase.

    Action figures-EVERYBODY has those figures price lower than $20 except comic book stores.

    Comics. Now here is where we have an issue. Especially if you live in a city that has a HALF PRICE BOOKS or Movie Trading Post.
    Half Price books is just that books at HALF the price or LOWER. It is very common to see books that just came out Wednesday already at Half Price on Friday. Especially DC New 52-Rebirth books (looking at YOU Hal Jordan & Flash & Batman & Superman & TITANS & TEEN TITANS & Justice League & Nightwing & Green Arrow).
    Movie Trading Post tends to get new books (around 1-6 months old) and they have buy one get free (for everybody 4 times a year) and for certain guys once a month. I went to one with 50 comic bins. Batman ate up 10 by himself (just HIM not his supporting cast) and about 500 in a box.
    Barnes & Nobles-who is having (or had) a sale of buy 1 or 2 DC books and get 1 FREE

    This is all OFF LINE-lets talk ONLINE
    HI EBAY!!!
    HI AMAZON
    HI Midtown comics and all your NONSTOP SALES.

    How many stores saw a RENT increase 500% and higher? My mall got ruined because business had to move out due to rent. JC Penny, Macys, Dillards, Sears, Game Stop, Subway, Chick Fila & others.
    Ordering out of habit. NO ONE at Dc is making a store buy all those variants or books. That goes for EVERY SINGLE TITLE. If Artgem covers are selling why am I bothering with the other cover?

    These are the guys KILLING comic book stores. It does not matter how many Batman or Deadpool books you make-the above (especially Barnes & Nobles) will have them CHEAPER.

    wherein DC and Marvel are selling less comic books because there are slightly more women and people of color in them books these days.
    Now to be FAIR-Dc nor Marvel can do anything about that. If I have a store where those books DON'T sell-that is on ME not those two.

    I can't tell DC nor Marvel to stop selling Ms Marvel because I can't sell her book. That would be unfair to the stores who don't have that issue and her sales OUTSIDE of comics book stores.

    I can't lose money if I am NOT ordering her book. So those stores that cry about Moon Girl only have themselves to blame. common sense says stop ordering it.

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