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    Exclamation X-Men: Dark Phoenix film

    This is the *new* thread to talk about the Dark Phoenix film and all who sail in her.

    One thing this thread is not for is to compare Fox vs MCU as that gets old quick and patience will be limited for such things.
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    I hope this doesn't flop but i feel it will.

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    I think this movie is dead on arrival sadly. All the signs point to another Fan4stic.
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    This is evidently Simon Kinberg's white whale. The X-Men film franchise hasn't earned a second attempt at anything Phoenix-related. Failing that, we don't know or care enough about Jean for the story to matter. It's too bad this can't be moved to a streaming service release along with New Mutants. (Saying New Mutants should also be moved - not saying it is being moved, like that shallow rumor said.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiminy_Cricket View Post
    I think this movie is dead on arrival sadly. All the signs point to another Fan4stic.
    Are you referring to the imaginary test screenings that have been happening lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shape View Post
    Are you referring to the imaginary test screenings that have been happening lately.
    I'm talking about the massive amounts of re-shoots and the fact that the release date has been pushed twice.

    I don't pay much attention to test screening reports as they are rarely accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiminy_Cricket View Post
    I'm talking about the massive amounts of re-shoots and the fact that the release date has been pushed twice.

    I don't pay much attention to test screening reports as they are rarely accurate.
    Oh. Though World War Z was delayed for just as long and was mildly entertaining.

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteQueenEmmaFrost View Post
    lol


    I find it weird that a handful of people that saw the movie get to decide what gets changed. Obviously the test audience either didn't see X3, or weren't loud enough to say "this is a remake of X3"
    General audiences liked X3 and the majority of critics gave it a pass. Fan-bias aside, it’s only major problem was the bloated narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixzero23 View Post
    I hope this doesn't flop but i feel it will.
    That's the perception and I worry that it'll only make for a self-fulfilling prophecy, no matter how well the movie turns out. I was at NYCC when Sophie Turner, Tye Sherridan, and Simon Kinberg came out for interviews. The area was packed. People seemed genuinely excited about this movie. Everyone involved seemed upbeat. Tye and Sophie really seemed to enjoy each other's company. This perception about the movie is coming almost entirely from people who are still whining about X-Men Apocalypse or that this isn't in the MCU, which are both awful reasons to dismiss it.

    If this movie flops, it'll flop for all the wrong reasons. Kinberg has gone on record as saying that X3 is a mistake. He wants to correct it. And yet, people are still giving him crap for it. It's sad and I think it'll only hurt this movie in ways it and the cast don't deserve.
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    I think the film will be enjoyable for what it will be, but for those of us diehard X-fans or Jean fans we should go in expecting X-3 2.0. As Filthy Mutie above said, since this Jean's appearance in Apocalypse there has not been enough time or interest in Jean's evolution to warrant this film at this stage. Having read the leaked script concepts last summer, and seeing most of those seeming to be true through the trailer, I'll go see it but will not be expecting much. I'm bummed and hope that I'll be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelMaster616 View Post
    That's the perception and I worry that it'll only make for a self-fulfilling prophecy, no matter how well the movie turns out. I was at NYCC when Sophie Turner, Tye Sherridan, and Simon Kinberg came out for interviews. The area was packed. People seemed genuinely excited about this movie. Everyone involved seemed upbeat. Tye and Sophie really seemed to enjoy each other's company. This perception about the movie is coming almost entirely from people who are still whining about X-Men Apocalypse or that this isn't in the MCU, which are both awful reasons to dismiss it.

    If this movie flops, it'll flop for all the wrong reasons. Kinberg has gone on record as saying that X3 is a mistake. He wants to correct it. And yet, people are still giving him crap for it. It's sad and I think it'll only hurt this movie in ways it and the cast don't deserve.
    I would love this film to be great but the signs aren't looking to good. First time director along with extensive re-shoot's and TWO rescheduled release dates point to the movie being in trouble.

    Kinberg's comments about X3 is just PR spin and the proof will be in the pudding.

    If this film turns out to be good I will gladly eat a large slice of humble pie, as will others.
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    Heard someone watched it and said it was terrible...


    Hope he's wrong

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    I'm looking forward to this. I don't think it will be great, but i actually want to see x-men interact and not a huge wolverine show. I liked Apocalypse for what it was too. they didn't get the character right, but the x-men alone, and seeing scott and jean portrayed well made me like it enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex. View Post
    Heard someone watched it and said it was terrible...


    Hope he's wrong
    People said the same thing about Deadpool 2 last year just a few months before it came out. It went onto gain both acclaim and box office success. Plus, there have been false leaks from test screeners before. It has also been documented that when footage was shown at NYCC and another con in South America, the audience responded favorably.

    In short, if you go in with negative expectations, you're going to look for excuses to justify them because people don't like changing their minds. I guarantee you that the people whining about the movie now are going to find a reason to justify it, no matter how good the movie ends up being.
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    I've given up hope on it being good. But still looking forward to seeing Scott and Jean on screen. Also hoping Nightcrawler and Storm aren't wallpaper in this.
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