X-Men: Dark Phoenix film

[PsychoEFrost]

Which is an arbitrary system to use.




Blade and Blade 2 scored lower. Are you going to pretend that general audiences don’t love those movies?

Blade scored a 78% with audiences. That's one of those "critics don't like it, fans do" situations. X3 was panned by both critics and audiences.

[Divine Spark]

Blade scored a 78% with audiences. That's one of those "critics don't like it, fans do" situations. X3 was panned by both critics and audiences.

I hardly call a 61% above average rating panned. That’s even labeled a fresh by the site.

[Force de Phenix]

Skipping the Phoenix Saga was a mistake, and not having the Hellfire Club, the Shi'ar, the Black Queen, and Emma Frost... well, if they put some fan service and easter eggs, fanboys will be happy.

[PsychoEFrost]

I hardly call a 61% above average rating panned. That’s even labeled a fresh by the site.

It's still the second lowest fan rating of the entire series, and for a comics based movie, that's really not good.

[Divine Spark]

Skipping the Phoenix Saga was a mistake, and not having the Hellfire Club, the Shi'ar, the Black Queen, and Emma Frost... well, if they put some fan service and easter eggs, fanboys will be happy.

I think leaving out the Shi’ar was for the best because without any previous appearances they would have felt shoehorned in.

[Divine Spark]

It's still the second lowest fan rating of the entire series, and for a comics based movie, that's really not good.

It’s no doubt generally considered to be one of the weaker entires but that’s not necessarily the same thing as being disliked.

[Mutant 77]

"The Last Stand" was a big hit all around the world and nobody disliked it, X-Men comic book fans apart.

I found it a brilliant and bleak superhero movie featuring terrific sequences and great action/CGI.

Despite that, I'm glad the timeline has been revised two times, and now we will get a "Phoenix Saga" closer to the original story.

[pandafarmer]

Are we really going to pretend that movies scored in the 50th percentile are generally favorably viewed? We are? Ok cool, just making sure.

I think with genre films in general it takes a VERY special film to rate higher than 60% on the tomatometer. Problem is that the average movie goer will take those reviews to heart and generally pick their weekend viewing using the system to help guide them. Battle Angel Alita is a great example of a film that had pretty low scores but yet it's highly rated by fans of sci-fi/dystopian films.

[PsychoEFrost]

I think with genre films in general it takes a VERY special film to rater than 60% on the tomatometer. Problem is that the average movie goer will take those reviews to heart and generally pick their weekend viewing using the system to help guide them. Battle Angel Alita is a great example of a film that had pretty low scores but yet it's highly rated by fans of sci-fi/dystopian films.

And yet X-Men, X2, and First Class all managed to do that. X3 didn't.

Because X3 was 9 different plots happening at the same time, and the movie tried to pass that as depth. I know whose idea it was to have Phoenix/Dark Phoenix be the D-plot in a movie, but it was a bad one.

[Divine Spark]

I know whose idea it was to have Phoenix/Dark Phoenix be the D-plot in a movie, but it was a bad one.

I assume you mean “don”t” and it was Tom Rothman’s idea.

[Frontier]

Is it that difficult to give us a legitimate Phoenix costume?

[PsychoEFrost]

I assume you mean “don”t” and it was Tom Rothman’s idea.

Nope. D-Plot. A-Plot was the mutant cure. B-Plot was the ongoing hostilities between Xavier and Magneto. C-Plot was whatever was happening with Wolverine. Jean and the Phoenix were the D-plot.

[Maestro 216]

"The Last Stand" was a big hit all around the world and nobody disliked it, X-Men comic book fans apart.

I found it a brilliant and bleak superhero movie featuring terrific sequences and great action/CGI.

Despite that, I'm glad the timeline has been revised two times, and now we will get a "Phoenix Saga" closer to the original story.

Not really all that closer to the story. Just more stuff, and if anything it seems like a Last Stand remake.

[Divine Spark]

Nope. D-Plot. A-Plot was the mutant cure. B-Plot was the ongoing hostilities between Xavier and Magneto. C-Plot was whatever was happening with Wolverine. Jean and the Phoenix were the D-plot.

I mean I assume you meant “I don’t know who’s idea it was”.

[Divine Spark]

Not really all that closer to the story. Just more stuff, and if anything it seems like a Last Stand remake.

The Phoenix wasn’t in X3.