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    Quote Originally Posted by darewithpeace View Post
    this theory makes sense
    Oh please. Fox did a perfectly good job messing up this franchise for 20 years all on their own. And if they really loved the DPS and believed in their content, they would have released their movie back in November and beaten Marvel to the punch(before the acquisition was even through).
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    Oh please. Fox did a perfectly good job messing up this franchise for 20 years all on their own. And if they really loved the DPS and believed in their content, they would have released their movie back in November and beaten Marvel to the punch(before the acquisition was even through).
    The reason why it was delayed to June was so that Alita could get the February date and please James Cameron.

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    Kinberg got fired from what is left of Fox.

    https://deadline.com/2019/07/simon-k...ne-1202643741/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    Kinberg got fired from what is left of Fox.

    https://deadline.com/2019/07/simon-k...ne-1202643741/
    The link says that he was planning on leaving many months ago. Which makes sense since he was pissed about the delay to June.

    Even though the exit comes on the heels of disappointing returns on the X-Men First Class film Dark Phoenix, the timing is coincidental. Kinberg had planned this exit for at least half a year, as Disney was making plans to take it over, with the X-Men franchise steered by Marvel impresario Kevin Feige. Sources said that Kinberg could have, but decided not to make another deal with a major studio. Instead, he aligned with private backing — his camp wouldn’t be specific about the new backer — that sources said gives him ample overhead and more freedom because he is able to spread the projects he writes, produces and directs across town. He’s trying to take full advantage of the various studio and streaming outlets hungry for films that are making it confining to be shackled to one studio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    Kinberg got fired from what is left of Fox.

    https://deadline.com/2019/07/simon-k...ne-1202643741/
    He wasn't fired. He was planning to step away. The article clearly states that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    Oh please. And if they really loved the DPS and believed in their content, they would have released their movie back in November and beaten Marvel to the punch(before the acquisition was even through).
    What content is that. The empty content of the director's directing CV or The empty content of a young cast of kids trying to make a dark phoenix movie?

    Rumors had it that the movie was terrible when it first screened. It had all the signs of an inexperienced director who had spent years taking writing credits for movies he never really wrote.

    Mathew Vaughn made it known, he was the main master builder of X-Men First Class and DOFP. Two movies Kinberg took credit for.

    Vaughn is having success with rocketman, why isn't Kinberg having success with dark phoenix?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    Kinberg got fired from what is left of Fox.

    https://deadline.com/2019/07/simon-k...ne-1202643741/
    Of course he was. You don’t swallow poison, you spit it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shape View Post
    The reason why it was delayed to June was so that Alita could get the February date and please James Cameron.
    Alita made the movie move from February to June(a day after the February date was announced in the first place), not from November to June.

    Furthermore, the Skrulls have almost zero involvement in the original DPS, so why was Fox so insistent on using them in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    What content is that. The empty content of the director's directing CV or The empty content of a young cast of kids trying to make a dark phoenix movie?

    Rumors had it that the movie was terrible when it first screened. It had all the signs of an inexperienced director who had spent years taking writing credits for movies he never really wrote.

    Mathew Vaughn made it known, he was the main master builder of X-Men First Class and DOFP. Two movies Kinberg took credit for.

    Vaughn is having success with rocketman, why isn't Kinberg having success with dark phoenix?
    Mathew Vaughn himself said that Kinberg helped with the script of DOFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelMaster616 View Post
    He wasn't fired. He was planning to step away. The article clearly states that.
    He was fired. Here is another take of what happened.

    https://hnentertainment.co/dark-phoe...-exits-studio/


    ''While the article claims it has nothing to do with a massive bombing of final X-Men film Dark Phoenix, Kinberg did lose Fox a lot of money (over $100 million) with his first attempt at feature film directing and I’m not sure his development deal would have survived even if he wasn’t working with another studio currently.

    There is a good chance that Disney’s Alan Horn was part of the severing of the deal, even if Deadline suggests that Kinberg was the one that ended things (article sounds like the perspectives are coming from Simon’s camp).

    Hopefully, Universal and Kinberg are able to release some quality films as they certainly weren’t too concerned about the box office of Dark Phoenix as they didn’t pause production on 355 or attempt to find a replacement director. Then again, they could at the point of no return and are going to think happy thoughts until the studio test screenings.

    It’ll be interesting to see how 355 turns out in the end. However, if it is another box office blunder and he keeps getting high-profile directing work it is going to look like another white male director failing upwards because of their clout in Hollywood, not based on their skill/talent''.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    Alita made the movie move from February to June(a day after the February date was announced in the first place), not from November to June.

    Furthermore, the Skrulls have almost zero involvement in the original DPS, so why was Fox so insistent on using them in the first place?
    Right, the move to February was due to the reshoots.

    Probably because shape shifters would allow them to not use much make-up. I heard the studio cut the budget at the last minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaddle View Post
    He was fired. Here is another take of what happened.

    https://hnentertainment.co/dark-phoe...-exits-studio/
    The author isn't saying that he heard about what really happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shape View Post
    Right, the move to February was due to the reshoots.

    Probably because shape shifters would allow them to not use much make-up. I heard the studio cut the budget at the last minute.
    Blah, blah, blah, not Disney-Marvel's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    Blah, blah, blah, not Disney-Marvel's fault.
    Oh, I agree with you there. I don't buy that at all. Both Deadline and Kinberg himself have shot that down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shape View Post
    Oh, I agree with you there. I don't buy that at all. Both Deadline and Kinberg himself have shot that down.
    I will give you credit; you are more reasonable than the other Fox-Men diehards.
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