ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!
Since this is Jean’s appreciation thread, let me first say that in my opinion Jean is the greatest telepath/telekinetic the Marvel universe has efter seen. Yes, I think she’s greater than Xavier. Not much in the world can stand against her raw psi powers. :-) But Ororo is in tune with the atmosphere and the ecosystem - she is in tune with the planet itself, especially since her source of power is the electromagnetic field. And that is something not even Jean can match.
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ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!
Don't agree. Stan Lee's Jean may have been pretty weak. The later Silver Age Jean could hold her own with any of the other X Men, powers wise. If she needed a power boost to compete than the rest of them needed one as well.
X FACTOR Jean was plenty powerful up through the 90s, but she didn't do anything like repair the M'kraan crystal. The entire Phoenix story is only about 36 issues. You can't take about 12 of them and go, those don't count. That's a third of the run.
Didn't Claremont, at one point, talk about her own psychic circuit inhibitors? Something like that. When they fight Magneto, she has him beat then her powers short out. She's reaching for more power and there is no more there. Otherwise, she was overpowering him.
In my mind, once you have her plateau at the levels she reached to fix the crystal, it's an established boundary that the character has shown she can reach. No, no we'll take that away UNTIL the next time you need her to be uber powerful.
And I read the quotes from the Companion. The Sanderson Claremont conversation. If the plan was that it really was a one time deal that certainly makes her more workable. They fought Proteus, who was extremely powerful, and it's not like she took him out by herself. There is also about a year's worth of stories where she isn't fighting. The X Men do the fighting and they think she's dead at the time. And vice versa. You could also make the same argument about Mastermind . If she was omnipotent he would have never been able to take control of her.
Beast was an Avenger and with the exception of Scott, Claremont promptly got rid of all the Silver Age characters. Maybe they might have gotten upgrades as well, but he wasnt interested in using them when he first started writing. He did have use for Jean, which is why he gave her that boost.
Has this been posted here yet? Preview of X-Men Blue #33
http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com...x-men-blue-33/
I'm also just going to add that while Jean received a power upgrade, so did Scott. When he returned from Krakoa island powerless, his ability came back stronger and I believe his ruby quartz glasses/visor had to be readjusted too.
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This is very interesting about the Jean Grey vs. Firelord thing. In that story, Phoenix Force Jean Grey defeated Firelord with an attack backed by the power of a star. A few issues earlier, we saw Storm throw an backed by the FULL power of a star against a sentinel.
ALL HAIL THE HADARI YAO, THE OMEGA'S OMEGA, BEYOND OMEGA, THE VOICE OF SOL!!!! NOW AGAIN THE ONE TRUE AND ONLY GODDESS OF THE X-MEN AS CLAREMONT INTENDED!!!!!
He did use Beast some. Depends on how much of a power up you consider his transformation in AMAZING ADVENTURES. I don't think it had anything to do with powers concerning Bobby and Warren. Just didn't appear to have much interest in either one. Which leaves Scott who I still maintain Jean was comparable to, powers wise, later in the Silver Age run.
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