The Technocracy Replaces S.H.I.E.L.D., retroactively.

[Pendaran]

Instead of battling with Hydra, A.I.M., and similar organizations, I think the Technocracy would try to assimilate them. Maybe keep them superficially separate for purposes of plausible deniability for black ops. So who would be the Technocracy's natural enemies in the Marvel Universe?

Thanos
Kang/Immortus/Rama-Tut
Mad Jim Jaspers
Dr. Doom

They'd try to fold in AIM at least a bit, but they'd ultimately conclude HYDRA is best off completely wiped out as far as how dissonant they are with the Technocracy's goals, particularly when half the organization outright worship Lovecraftian nonsense now and again and or are such. So really they're a fairly natural enemy.

Their natural enemies are more likely to be.. hah, Marvel Dracula, but they're pretty well equipped to basically end Marvel Vampires after a few years, only to get frustrated as crap seems to keep bringing them back ;p

[The Watcher]

I'd add Darkhold cultists and associated mystics to the TechnocraSHIELD's high priority targets. They're going to want to suppress anything associated with Elder Gods such as Cthon.

Ultron would also probably another threat they'd put a lot of effort into stomping out, due to him being an utter perversion of their group ethos of technology being a benefit to mankind.

Mephisto might make a play to suborn members of the Syndicate who were in bed with Pentex back in their home reality. Speaking of which, now that they don't have to worry about the Traditions and other threats of the World of Darkness does Project Invictus' effort to get rid of the corrupt elements of the Syndicate become more overt?

One thing I'm wondering is how do the Void Engineers cope with actual organized alien civilizations like the Kree and Skrull as opposed to the various spirit courts and scattered ultraterrestrials they were used to dealing with.

[Pendaran]

Oh, Inivctus slaughters the Special Projects Division within the first week or so given that SPD will not manage to find new backers to protect them in time before Invictus realizes there is at this point nothing preventing them from wiping the division out with impunity.

One thing I'm wondering is how do the Void Engineers cope with actual organized alien civilizations like the Kree and Skrull as opposed to the various spirit courts and scattered ultraterrestrials they were used to dealing with.

Given the potency of their fleet? Pretty well. They'd only be focused on keeping them from screwing around with Earth's solar system and also Earth. Whatever crap they get up to outside of it is well less of a concern.


The Technocracy are also tailor made to do things like find and expose Skrull infiltration. If they accomplish nothing else, that whole crossover mess with the "various heroes were replaced by skrulls!" thing goes wayyy differently.

[Sharpandpointies]

IOne thing I'm wondering is how do the Void Engineers cope with actual organized alien civilizations like the Kree and Skrull as opposed to the various spirit courts and scattered ultraterrestrials they were used to dealing with.

Like Pendaran says. Also, the Void Engineers have a field day just wandering around these places, visiting them, interacting with them, etc. VE are possibly the least madly fanatical of the bunch, and as Pendaran note, so long as whomever isn't coming into the Earth System to mess around with their turf, they techies likely have zero issues with them. And they do tend to enjoy seeking out new worlds, etc, etc.

Oh, Inivctus slaughters the Special Projects Division within the first week or so given that SPD will not manage to find new backers to protect them in time before Invictus realizes there is at this point nothing preventing them from wiping the division out with impunity.

And there was much rejoicing.

[Shellhead]

The Technocracy would really, really hate Kulan-Gath. A powerful sorcerer who worships the dark gods and has the actual ability to drag a geographical region back to the tech level of the Hyborian Age.

Though the Progenitors would see potential upsides in manipulating mutant evolution, I think that would bring them into direct conflict with both Magneto and Xavier.

Once the Void Engineers find out about Counter-Earth (before the Beyonders moved it), the Technocracy would probably become obsessed with it as a potential test control for all kinds of experiments.

[The Watcher]

Speaking of Counter-Earth, I could see a lot of Progenitors becoming big fans of the High Evolutionary. Hmmm, I wonder if any would be swayed to support his efforts to advance mankind during the Evolutionary War.

[Pendaran]

The thing overall here, as far as the conflicts within the Technocracy of the more heroic reforming idealists vs the more authoritarian monsters, is the lack of an Ascension War to justify and distract with is going to skew that conflict to the heroic reforming idealists winning it.

Buuuuut the thing of even that is… the heroic reforming idealists are still /ruthless as hell/.


So you get plus sides like the Technocracy using the wide scale social engineering they are good at (and with no paradox or Traditions to counter it, they will be ridiculously good at it) to tackle issues like anti mutant prejudice, you certainly get cancer cures happening, what have you. Civil War doesn't happen from a mix of the basic idea of registration as public transparency and accountability giving the Technocracy massive screaming fits as concepts (they're perfectly content to figure out everyone's secret IDs on their own and not share them with anyone, thank you, and they don't serve the governments of the world, they are beyond the governments of the world, kthnx), and that the illegal mutant growth hormone drug floating around would be the exact sort of thing the Technocracy would look out for, step on, and quietly murder everyone responsible (while stealing their research notes). And as a mid tier sort otherwise, the Techs probably already quietly and secretly murdered Nitro. Skrull infiltrations are more easily uncovered and countered, HYDRA definitely gets killed out, and probably also the Hand. They have a guy who can retroactively take over any military he joins to the point of all records saying he was always in charge of it and all relevant governments, personnel, the entire related army and basically history itself agreeing he totally is, so a lot of the really stupid out of control junk Marvel Earth militaries do gets stepped on. They'll treat Reed Richards like a rock star celebrity they want autographs of. They'll want to hire Peter Parker, no, not for the Spiderman thing (I mean hey, that's nice, and we'd love to get a look at your genetic code, but it's a bit small potatoes. Here, we just bought out the Daily Bugle, enjoy not being constantly character assassinated) but as a scientist, because man, look at that web fluid compound he came up with, that's great, that shows potential.


But by the same token, the Union will probably quietly and secretly murder a lot of low to mid tier supervillains. And they'll definitely co opt lot of Marvel Earth's advanced tech by trying to co opt AIM, by picking out various mid tier evil superscientists no one will miss and kidnapping and brainwashing the living hell out of them, and it's very likely they'll look at the mutant condition as "I mean, that's cool, sure, but you know what would be cooler? if we /improved and directed it/ instead of it being just total random genetic lottery". They will definitely clandestinely back the Punisher when I think of it, just through a lot of cut outs and enlightened science/magic diversions. They'll totally think the Illuminati is the superbestest idea ever and basically just pitch having a representative of Control sit on the Illuminati council thing. Probably Tychoides, for that he's relatively decent and can get along with people.

[Sharpandpointies]

The assessment is both hilarious and accurate, I feel.

[wjowski]

The Technocracy (Very Quietly) Kills The Marvel Universe

[Pendaran]

The Technocracy (Very Quietly) Kills The Marvel Universe

Really mostly just low to mid tier supervillains and also HYDRA and the Hand.

After the fifth time they kill all the MU vampires and then some idiot reads a copy of the Darkhold that turns up somewhere and restores them anyway, they'll sigh and focus instead on vampire containment and grumble about the familiarity ;p