I miss the love triangle

[Robanker]

What if Lois trying to find out Superman's secret is a romantic game for them and Lois says she doesn't have a problem if a superhero tries to date her while keeping his identity a secret but she will figure it out. It can be their kink.

I've always been of the mind that she knows, but given her background in journalism and overall ethics, she needs to stick it; she needs proof. She's not okay knowing, she wants to beat him at his own game and get him to admit that, yes, he is in fact Superman. She wants to be able to land the story, even if it's only for her to know. So I do like the concept of it being a game of cat-and-mouse where the roles swap often. It's the only way I can see them updating a love triangle to work.

Be that as it may, I don't trust editorial to not mess it up to throw drama around.

Oy gevalt. Serves me right for thinking you guys would enjoy this blast from the past.

It's interesting, but it betrays a pretty rough mindset of that time, which is essentially that marrying a character to his love interest is akin to pairing him up with his closest friend or ally. Lois was clearly intended to be more than that, but they're undercutting her role in Superman's life to be nothing more than his Jim Gordon, or Tanto to his Lone Ranger as it was put. It betrays a clear lack of interest or respect for Lois Lane as a character.

I love throwbacks and nostalgia as much as the next comic nerd but not everything old is good.

[Jon Clark]

No they don't. Not always. Many characters went in directions completely different from what their creators intended and ended up better for it.

Yet the majority of comics keep being reset to a certain status quo.

Clark is always a reporter working alongside Lois. If someone reveals his identity to the world, it has to be walked back. If he gets a new career (even if it lasts 15 years) he still winds up a print reporter again. If Superman starts a romance with Wonder Woman or even just breaks up with Lois, it never lasts. If Superman comics are coming out 20 years from now it will still be this way.

It's the same way Batman will always be Bruce Wayne and anyone else under the cowl will just be a temporary placeholder. Diana will always wind up romantically linked to Steve Trevor. Wally and Kyle will never get to reclaim the main hero role.

Most things the original creators set up are never going to be taken out of the character's DNA.

[stargazer01]

What if Lois trying to find out Superman's secret is a romantic game for them and Lois says she doesn't have a problem if a superhero tries to date her while keeping his identity a secret but she will figure it out. It can be their kink.

That sounds so immature and dumbed down like a kids cartoon. Superman fans deserve intelligent content. The character has evolved from that. The Silver age had some good stuff like imagination, but it also treated the characters, especially Lois, like a spoiled a child and very insecure and needy for Superman's love too often.

IMO the creator's wishes should always be respected. They created the characters so they know best.

Times change. Wonder Woman is now the daughter of Zeus and her film did just fine. Superman slept with Lois in Superman 2. Do you think Siegel approved?

[Stardust]

I think bringing the triangle serves Superman on a silver platter to the comicsgate guys.

They would love to get new panels in which Superman gaslights Lois to support their own actions.
More whining from "nice guys", that women want Superman and not Clark Kent.
More support for Lois/women are stupid arguments.

[Lasil]

That sounds so immature and dumbed down like a kids cartoon. Superman fans deserve intelligent content. The character has evolved from that. The Silver age had some good stuff like imagination, but it also treated the characters, especially Lois, like a spoiled a child and very insecure and needy for Superman's love too often.




Times change. Wonder Woman is now the daughter of Zeus and her film did just fine. Superman slept with Lois in Superman 2. Do you think Siegel approved?

Yes he approved. He liked stories where Superman & Lois got married but didn't want it to be part of the main stories. Lois goes back to not knowing Superman's secret.

[Lasil]

I think bringing the triangle serves Superman on a silver platter to the comicsgate guys.

They would love to get new panels in which Superman gaslights Lois to support their own actions.
More whining from "nice guys", that women want Superman and not Clark Kent.
More support for Lois/women are stupid arguments.

Comicsgate wants Peter & MJ back together again. Is Marvel serving Spider-Man to them now that Pete & MJ are back together again?
Comicsgate was mad that Batman & Catwoman didn't get married but they should still get married. We can't let comicsgate decide how comics are written.

[Agent Z]

Yet the majority of comics keep being reset to a certain status quo.

Clark is always a reporter working alongside Lois. If someone reveals his identity to the world, it has to be walked back. If he gets a new career (even if it lasts 15 years) he still winds up a print reporter again. If Superman starts a romance with Wonder Woman or even just breaks up with Lois, it never lasts. If Superman comics are coming out 20 years from now it will still be this way.

It's the same way Batman will always be Bruce Wayne and anyone else under the cowl will just be a temporary placeholder. Diana will always wind up romantically linked to Steve Trevor. Wally and Kyle will never get to reclaim the main hero role.

Most things the original creators set up are never going to be taken out of the character's DNA.

What comics keep doing and what is the best decision for comics are two different things.

[Agent Z]

Comicsgate wants Peter & MJ back together again. Is Marvel serving Spider-Man to them now that Pete & MJ are back together again?
Comicsgate was mad that Batman & Catwoman didn't get married but they should still get married. We can't let comicsgate decide how comics are written.

Comicsgate doesn't care about marriages. They're too busy complaining about women, minorities and LGBT people getting books and female writers drinking milkshakes.

[Lasil]

Comicsgate doesn't care about marriages. They're too busy complaining about women, minorities and LGBT people getting books and female writers drinking milkshakes.

They hate OMD and what Bendis is doing with the Superman family. It doesn't make sense but that is what they are doing.

[HeroVladimir93]

No, I don't think the love triangle should be restored. Clark/Lois is fine they way it is now. Man of Steel and The Death of Superman came up with interesting ways to start Clark and Lois' relationship. If the love triangle was restored, it would come off as a regression, a step backwards. I also don't think Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster's comments about this can be used to justify the love triangle's restoration because at this point in the game, Superman is no longer bound to Siegel and Shuster's vision. Yes, they created the original concept of Superman but Superman has evolved beyond that concept, thanks to the talents of people like Christopher Reeve, Richard Donner, Grant Morrison, Henry Cavill, Bruce Timm, Dan Jurgens, etc. Superman needs to move forwards, not backwards.

[Agent Z]

They hate OMD and what Bendis is doing with the Superman family. It doesn't make sense but that is what they are doing.

I've been paying attention to what the comicsgate crowd hates. It isn't marriages.

[Lasil]

I've been paying attention to what the comicsgate crowd hates. It isn't marriages.

They dont marriages. They want comics to be a certain way and not all of it is the same. Whenever something happens that they don't like they blame women and SJWs.

[Agent Z]

They dont marriages. They want comics to be a certain way and not all of it is the same. Whenever something happens that they don't like they blame women and SJWs.

And none of this is at all relevant to the Superman Lois love triangle.

[Lasil]

And none of this is at all relevant to the Superman Lois love triangle.

Tell that to Stardust.

[The World]

I don't really care about the love triangle thing but why would Superman who's been shown to be able to build robot replicas of himself not be able to fool Lois. There's no real reason who shouldn't be able to fool the whole world for as long as he pleases, his only threat would be psychics or the clairvoyant. Him being able to fool Lois makes no less sense than him being able to fly.