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    So Silver Surfer, Vol 8 #6 was marketed as SS's 200th issue...

    I can't for the life of me calculate how they got this.

    Any ideas?

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    Accortding to the Marvel Database wiki on Fandom:

    #1-18 Silver Surfer Vol 1 #1-18
    #19 Silver Surfer Vol 2 #1
    #20-165 Silver Surfer Vol 3 #1-146
    #166-167 Silver Surfer Vol 4 #1-2
    #168-181 Silver Surfer Vol 5 #1-14
    #182-186 Silver Surfer Vol 6 #1-5
    #187-201 Silver Surfer Vol 7 #1-15
    #202-215 Silver Surfer Vol 8 #1-14

    That's seven out, so it looks like vols 4 and 6 weren't counted for some reason.
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    Thanks D. Weird the selective Surfer omissions.

    In other Legacy Number news, while Iron Man is currently not displaying anything officially, I noticed that the Man-Thing variant cover of IM #2 lists it as LGY627.
    So SOMEONE is still keeping track somewhere!

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    600 (up to Bendis) + 19 (Slott) + 6 (2020) = 625, so that confirms Iron Man 2020 is included in the legacy numbering despite not having the legacy number on the covers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Accortding to the Marvel Database wiki on Fandom:

    #1-18 Silver Surfer Vol 1 #1-18
    #19 Silver Surfer Vol 2 #1
    #20-165 Silver Surfer Vol 3 #1-146
    #166-167 Silver Surfer Vol 4 #1-2
    #168-181 Silver Surfer Vol 5 #1-14
    #182-186 Silver Surfer Vol 6 #1-5
    #187-201 Silver Surfer Vol 7 #1-15
    #202-215 Silver Surfer Vol 8 #1-14

    That's seven out, so it looks like vols 4 and 6 weren't counted for some reason.
    Probably because they look a little more like limited series.
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    Didn't stop them counting vol 2, which is a one-shot. Without that issue, the maths is one issue short.
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    Next week's Black Widow, vol. 8 # 3 is now cover-listed as LGY #43.

    This would also require them to ignore some volumes (limited series?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebsib View Post
    Next week's Black Widow, vol. 8 # 3 is now cover-listed as LGY #43.

    This would also require them to ignore some volumes (limited series?)
    Marvel's never had a single distinct set of rules regarding Legacy numberings, but generally, series planned as limited series have not been counted. Exceptions do occur, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post

    #1-50 - Spider-Woman (1978) #1-50
    #51 - Giant-Size Spider-Woman (2005) #1
    #52-56 - Spider-Woman Origin (2006) #1-5
    #57 - Spider-Woman Saga (2009) #1
    #58-64 - Spider-Woman (2009) #1-7
    #65 - Spider-Island: Spider-Woman (2011) #1
    #66-75 - Spider-Woman (2015) #1-10
    #76-93 - Spider-Woman (2016) #1-17
    #94-95 - Spider-Women (2016) #Alpha-Omega
    #96-100 - Spider-Woman (2020) #1-5

    And there you have it!
    That's a really good shot, but there's one problem - your math is off by one. The 17 issues of the 2016 series equal #76-92 (not 93). I cannot figure out where the numbering came from. >.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnrez View Post
    That's a really good shot, but there's one problem - your math is off by one. The 17 issues of the 2016 series equal #76-92 (not 93). I cannot figure out where the numbering came from. >.<
    I just this moment received an e-mail from Marvel with the official Spider-Woman legacy numbering scheme:

    SERIES COUNT LEGACY NUMBERING
    Spider-Woman (1978) 1-50 50 1 to 50
    Spider-Woman (1999) 1-18 18 51 to 68
    Spider-Woman (2015) 1-10 10 69 to 78
    Spider-Woman (2016) 1-17 17 79 to 95
    Spider-Woman (2020) 1-10 10 96 to 105

    This leaves out Bendis' seven-issue series for some reason, but that's the way it goes.

    I figured out f'r myself for Black Widow that if you leave out all the miniseries, including the 2018 five-issue run, then that gets you to exactly 40, as the current series has it:

    Black Widow (2010) 1–8 8 1 to 8
    Black Widow (2014) 1–20 20 9 to 28
    Black Widow (2016) 1–12 12 29 to 40
    Black Widow (2020) 1– 41+

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    LMAO at them ignoring the hyped up Bendis series, but including the random Mattie Franklin series!
    (Well, an un-costumed Jessica Drew WAS a supporting character, but still...)

    Black Widow is a mess. Without some of those defining limited series, it just feels incomplete.

    Frustrated that they seem not to have done anything with Shang-Chi's new series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebsib View Post
    Black Widow is a mess. Without some of those defining limited series, it just feels incomplete.
    Frustrated that they seem not to have done anything with Shang-Chi's new series.
    I concur—they should've included ALL the Black Widow miniseries, as they did with Venom. Granted, Venom's miniseries were all released back-to-back, with no interruption between them, so it was essentially an ongoing, but that's not really the point here.

    I figger Shang-Chi at new issue 1 = LGY 137, rather than 127 as suggested by an earlier post, because I am including both the MAX series (6 issues) and "Deadly Hands of Kung Fu" (2014, 4 issues). But I'm flexibobble about such things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallrobotdog View Post
    I just this moment received an e-mail from Marvel with the official Spider-Woman legacy numbering scheme:

    SERIES COUNT LEGACY NUMBERING
    Spider-Woman (1978) 1-50 50 1 to 50
    Spider-Woman (1999) 1-18 18 51 to 68
    Spider-Woman (2015) 1-10 10 69 to 78
    Spider-Woman (2016) 1-17 17 79 to 95
    Spider-Woman (2020) 1-10 10 96 to 105

    This leaves out Bendis' seven-issue series for some reason, but that's the way it goes.

    I figured out f'r myself for Black Widow that if you leave out all the miniseries, including the 2018 five-issue run, then that gets you to exactly 40, as the current series has it:

    Black Widow (2010) 1–8 8 1 to 8
    Black Widow (2014) 1–20 20 9 to 28
    Black Widow (2016) 1–12 12 29 to 40
    Black Widow (2020) 1– 41+
    Can confirm the Spider-Woman legacy numbering. They don't count SWORD or the Julia carpenter series bc they are considered minis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smallrobotdog View Post
    I concur—they should've included ALL the Black Widow miniseries, as they did with Venom. Granted, Venom's miniseries were all released back-to-back, with no interruption between them, so it was essentially an ongoing, but that's not really the point here.

    I figger Shang-Chi at new issue 1 = LGY 137, rather than 127 as suggested by an earlier post, because I am including both the MAX series (6 issues) and "Deadly Hands of Kung Fu" (2014, 4 issues). But I'm flexibobble about such things.
    Not including MAX series in Legacy numbering has been a rare spot where Marvel's been pretty consistent. Has any Max series been included?

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    I don't think the MAX imprint has been included anywhere.
    Punisher was up to #244 when it was cancelled, but would have been way past #300 if the MAX series was included.

    Limited series are so 'touch and go'.
    You're right about Venom - all included, but treated at the time like an ongoing saga.
    The first Punisher mini series is included; Wolverine's acclaimed limited series is not,
    but both Deadpool's first two LS ARE!

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