Age of X-Man: General Discussion *spoilers*

[Tycon]

Do you guys think Nate Grey can be redeemed after this?

[Anduinel]

Do you guys think Nate Grey can be redeemed after this?

If Bishop can be redeemed after that clusterfuck, then sure, why not? Will anyone care enough to put in the work is the question.

[Glio]

Do you guys think Nate Grey can be redeemed after this?

They can always blame the Life Seed.

[acisking]

They can always blame the Life Seed.

I feel like I must have totally missed this, but has it ever really been established wtf the life seed is? The only thing I remember is X-Man bringing it up out of nowhere in Disassembled and hearing that in the AoXM people believe that Hope used it to make everyone a mutant.

[Beetle]

I feel like I must have totally missed this, but has it ever really been established wtf the life seed is? The only thing I remember is X-Man bringing it up out of nowhere in Disassembled and hearing that in the AoXM people believe that Hope used it to make everyone a mutant.

The Life Seed is a concept that Remender introduced in his Uncanny X-Force run. It's the opposite of a Death Seed. They're Celestial artifacts that are used to create life and guide evolution on planets.

Apocalypse used the Death Seeds to create his Horsemen of Death (Archangel, Psylocke, Banshee, Daken, Grim Reaper and Sentry all had them).

A Life Seed broke that influence on Archangel, erased both his Angel and Archangel personalities, and gave him new powers. He was able to shoot energy blasts, heal and resurrect people, and channel that energy into flying supersonic speeds.

No clue where X-Man got a Life Seed, or how it let him create those giant animals

[acisking]

The Life Seed is a concept that Remender introduced in his Uncanny X-Force run. It's the opposite of a Death Seed. They're Celestial artifacts that are used to create life and guide evolution on planets.

Apocalypse used the Death Seeds to create his Horsemen of Death (Archangel, Psylocke, Banshee, Daken, Grim Reaper and Sentry all had them).

The Life Seed broke that influence on Archangel, erased both his Angel and Archangel personalities, and gave him new powers. He was able to shoot energy blasts, heal and resurrect people, and channel that energy into flying supersonic speeds.

Wow thank you for the explanation! That makes things much clearer.

[Glio]

The Life Seed is a concept that Remender introduced in his Uncanny X-Force run. It's the opposite of a Death Seed. They're Celestial artifacts that are used to create life and guide evolution on planets.

Apocalypse used the Death Seeds to create his Horsemen of Death (Archangel, Psylocke, Banshee, Daken, Grim Reaper and Sentry all had them).

A Life Seed broke that influence on Archangel, erased both his Angel and Archangel personalities, and gave him new powers. He was able to shoot energy blasts, heal and resurrect people, and channel that energy into flying supersonic speeds.

No clue where X-Man got a Life Seed, or how it let him create those giant animals

Exactly, if it could erase the personality of Archangel, they can always say that by using Life Seed trying to heal himself, Nate Grey went crazy or was not himself.

[spirit2011]

Do you guys think Nate Grey can be redeemed after this?

x-men are always forgiving, but this one will be hard to accept

[sungila]

Do you guys think Nate Grey can be redeemed after this?

I think he will have to earn redemption from himself.
Bendis' 05 reckoning thing only different...one man in the mirror...for five issues. Alone. Solo book. The Man Who Fell to Earth and then got up Limping.

[comeatmebro]

No, this is pretty much destroying his character and any chance of being usable in the future, X-Man was pretty much ruined by Ellis but Nadler/Thompson thought that was a good story and want to mess Nate up more

Age of X-Man is **** for everyone involved, just like Counter X was

[Luckystar.]

Do you guys think Nate Grey can be redeemed after this?

He better be. This fascist Jesus has nothing to do with the real Nate.

[phoenixzero23]

Do you guys think Nate Grey can be redeemed after this?

It will be difficult but there have been worse character assassinations. I'm sure he can be redeemed with a retcon. Also these may be 616 characters but this is an AU, most of these stuff is out of character for everybody
though it is weird he was character assassinated by two writers who supposedly are big fans of him

[greyspawn]

Do you guys think Nate Grey can be redeemed after this?

I don't think so. They ran him over with the bus and then backed up over and over. Listening to the writers talk about gay rage and being put back in the closet by Nate seems like its impossible to give him a pass. They have not just made him into a villain but the worst person that has ever existed. This isn't Apocalypse wants to destroy the world or Magento wanting to kill humans. They are dealing with racism, sexism, bigotry and the kitchen sink with Nate being the main cause for all of it. I could understand if this was pitched with someone that didn't like the character but this was pitched by people who said that he was the reason they got into comics. If they make him look this bad, I'm not sure how someone who is not a fan or doesn't care can ever do something with the character. The only way I can see him surviving is that it doesn't turn out to be him but then that would make the situation even crazier.

[Snoop Dogg]

The event has already redeemed X-Man's very existence.

[TheDeadSpace]

Do you guys think Nate Grey can be redeemed after this?

I think he's fine. Scarlet Witch did way worse and is still an Avenger. Either way, there's always the possibility that he dies and it doesn't matter.