Captain America vs Doctor Doom (With A Twist)

[The Watcher]

As all of you know, the time lost soldier Steve Rogers is not only a physically gifted human and extremely talented fighter but a paragon of courage and determination in the face of adversity as well.

And you of course all are aware that besides being a genius inventor and master mystic, Victor Von Doom is possessed of an unshakeable iron will and sense of self.

So what happens when the two individuals are required to pit their inner strengths against each other, along of course with their tactical savvy? No Adamantium Shield. No power armor, mystic arts or esoteric mental techniques. Just each one's raw willpower transformed into tangible power thanks to devices loaned to them for such purpose (and basic instructions regarding use of course) and their own cleverness and imagination to apply that power.

I, The Watcher, pose this question to you all...


What if Captain America and Doctor Doom fought each other wielding Power Rings?

[Grim Ghost]

As all of you know, the time lost soldier Steve Rogers is not only a physically gifted human and extremely talented fighter but a paragon of courage and determination in the face of adversity as well.

And you of course all are aware that besides being a genius inventor and master mystic, Victor Von Doom is possessed of an unshakeable iron will and sense of self.

So what happens when the two individuals are required to pit their inner strengths against each other, along of course with their tactical savvy? No Adamantium Shield. No power armor, mystic arts or esoteric mental techniques. Just each one's raw willpower transformed into tangible power thanks to devices loaned to them for such purpose (and basic instructions regarding use of course) and their own cleverness and imagination to apply that power.

I, The Watcher, pose this question to you all...


What if Captain America and Doctor Doom fought each other wielding Power Rings?

Doom probably has greater will power feats. That odd story where he gets sent back in time and sort of wills himself to not die. The original Secret Wars Beyonder vivisection is a big one.

For Cap I guess the 1st thing that comes to mind was that story where Korvac had him in this futuristic dystopia and he was stuck in a loop where he just kept organizing rebellions over and over and over...etc.. Not that Cap's willpower isn't amazing but I think of him more as being the guy who walks up to Thanos and stares him in the eye from Infinity gauntlet (comic). Balls of steel certainly but Doom as usual is probably on another level so I'd give it to him.

[Beadle]

I’d pretty much agree with all of the above.

[Shellhead]

We have one specific point of comparison in the Emperor Doom story. Doctor Doom uses the Purple Man and some kind of fancy tech to mind control everybody on Earth, including Captain America. The Purple Man complains that Doom is not worthy to take over the world, because he is using the Purple Man's power to control everybody. Doom counters by removing his protective mask and exposing himself directly to the Purple Man and is able to completely resist his power.

[Cyke]

We have one specific point of comparison in the Emperor Doom story. Doctor Doom uses the Purple Man and some kind of fancy tech to mind control everybody on Earth, including Captain America. The Purple Man complains that Doom is not worthy to take over the world, because he is using the Purple Man's power to control everybody. Doom counters by removing his protective mask and exposing himself directly to the Purple Man and is able to completely resist his power.

It's neat to picture that whole page with David Tennant's voice.

"Then release me! I - I said release me! Stand on your head! T-take a flying leap! KILL YOURSELF!"

...

"JESS-iii-CAAAAAAAAH!!!"

[k von doom]

While Captain America, undoubtedly, has superhuman willpower, Doom's will has always been portrayed as being almost supernatural.

[Sharpandpointies]

It's neat to picture that whole page with David Tennant's voice.

"Then release me! I - I said release me! Stand on your head! T-take a flying leap! KILL YOURSELF!"

...

"JESS-iii-CAAAAAAAAH!!!"

I've said it before, but the forum needs a like button. :D

[The Arbiter]

There is also Doom shrugging off planetary mind control attempts from a boosted Purple Man even AFTER he intentionally turns off his suit's psi defences.

Basically he resists because "I R DOOM!"

Edit: SHEEELL HEEEEEAAAADDDD!! *dies from speedblitz*

[Powerboy]

I don 't think it's an easy win by any means but Doom just has way better will power feats.

As to anyone else that might be a real battle? In an early story, Reed RIIIICHAAAAAAAAARDS fought Doom in a battle of wills where the winner would control the mind of the loser. Doom won, disintegrating Reed and walking out triumphantly, so happy at finally proving his was the superior mind that he spared the rest of the FF. The rest of the FF were confused since Reed was standing right in the room in plain sight as Doom bragged and left. Reed had actually won and controlled Doom's mind so he thought he won and left without further battle.

Thor might be up there too. The Ghost Rider had used his soul fire on many other heroes and had them paralyzed in fear. Cap overcame it with extreme effort but considered it the most overwhelming fear he ever felt. Even the bravest heroes acted like they were normal humans in a Cthulu story when hit by the Soul Fire. Thor brushed it off like it was nothing, like the Ghost Rider must be joking to even think it would have the slightest effect on a being who walks in the realm of Hela and has beaten the Devil/ Mephisto in his own realm. Not to say Doom couldn't shrug it off just as easily but it might be a good match of will power: Thor vs. Doom.

[big_adventure]

For the Rumble, yeah, Doom beats Cap, for all of the reasons listed, PLUS Steve has already shown that he's a blithering incompetent when using cosmic-powered artifacts.

For Marvel heroes who could outmatch Doom with a ring, Thug Life Richards drops Doom like it ain't no thing. He's already won in this exact situation (as pointed out above), plus his feats using cosmic-powered McGuffins are a step above Vic's.