Possible major changes coming from DC Comics

[king81992]

rho?
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There's no reason for Red Hood and the Outlaws not to survive. It keeps Lobdell contained and its decent.

[Godlike13]

There's no reason for Red Hood and the Outlaws not to survive. It keeps Lobdell contained and its decent.

Is keeping Lobdell contained really that important if their cutting down their books. Seems to me a containment book, that floats in and out of the top 100, would be an ideal candidate for cutting. Not that I think this rumor as it is is true, though do I think something is happening within DC. Still, RHO seems like an odd one to pick out as safe if they were putting a limit on their publishing.

[Vordan]

Damn, if it's true we can kiss goodbye to The Silencer and The Terrifics pretty soon I guess. And my hope of having an Electric Warrior's ongoing, and an actual Duke Thomas one too...

As unfortunate as it is we both know Silencer isn’t long for the world anyway. I’m just happy she’s lasted this long. But yeah this would destroy my interest in DC outside of Supes. The B and C-Listers are some of my favorites.

[Korath]

As unfortunate as it is we both know Silencer isn’t long for the world anyway. I’m just happy she’s lasted this long. But yeah this would destroy my interest in DC outside of Supes. The B and C-Listers are some of my favorites.

Well, with Bendis confirming that the events of The Silencer would be acknowledged in his Leviathan arc, I had some hope for The Silencer at least.

And considering how creatively bankrupt most of the main titles are currently, to me at least, I don't see much interest in the future of DC if the rumors are true.

[Robanker]

Is keeping Lobdell contained really that important if their cutting down their books. Seems to me a containment book, that floats in and out of the top 100, would be an ideal candidate for cutting. Not that I think this rumor as it is is true, though do I think something is happening within DC. Still, RHO seems like an odd one to pick out as safe if they were putting a limit on their publishing.

It /is/ noted to have a very strong following in the office, so someone up top may be keeping it afloat while claiming a steady fanbase and great word-of-mouth, though I admit most of what sold that book for me was Dexter Soy and the dark trinity concept working well.

I can see the book wrapping up after the current arc with Lobdell resolving the disappearance of Bizarro and Artemis later down the line, but it could just as easily continue.

[Swamp Thing 2099]

Shazam/Captain Marvel might get a book if the movie is successful.

There...there is a book. Geoff Johns writes it. #3 is out on the 27th.

[Comic-Reader Lad]

Let's take a closer look at DC's sales for December 2018, the most recent month we have, in order to determine what titles are in danger. The list below is the Diamond chart and does not take into account digital sales.

In December 2018, the top 5 titles in the industry were from DC even though Marvel was #1 overall as usual. Given how well Batman titles sell, maybe they'll just publish Batman 22 times a month.

Given how the Sandman Universe of titles debuted so high, they fell off really quickly. Every single one is out of the top 100. It seems that the only DCU titles that are out of the top 100 are the New Age of Heroes. I guess the public has spoken.

We already know that Green Arrow is getting canceled, but if the cutbacks rumors are true, then maybe they're NOT going to relaunch it so quickly. I would guess that both Hawkman and Supergirl will follow sooner than later. Obviously, Supergirl has a shot at survival because of her TV show, but Green Arrow also has a show, so who knows at this point?

We've also heard that the adult takes on Hanna-Barbera comics are canceled (like Scooby Apocalypse), but given classic-Scooby-Doo's position as the lowest-selling non-reorder title, it likely isn't long for this world either.

Looking at the list below, what are your thoughts on what DC will cut and what DC SHOULD cut?




key: UNITS rank, $ rank, TITLE, ISSUE #, PRICE, UNITS SOLD

RANK: TOP 50
1 1 Batman Who Laughs 1 $4.99 220,055
2 2 Batman Damned 2 $6.99 138,719
3 3 Doomsday Clock 8 $4.99 123,768
4 5 Batman 60 $3.99 91,275
5 6 Batman 61 $3.99 88,428
9 7 Batman Annual 3 $4.99 68,207
10 8 Shazam 1 $4.99 66,950
11 14 Justice League 13 $3.99 66,852
14 16 Green Lantern 2 $3.99 64,127
16 18 Justice League 14 $3.99 61,940
24 26 Superman 6 $3.99 52,414
26 29 Detective Comics 994 $3.99 51,772
28 34 Catwoman 6 $3.99 48,014
36 41 Flash 60 $3.99 42,212
39 43 Justice League Dark 6 $3.99 41,720
41 46 Martian Manhunter 1 $3.99 39,312
45 50 Wonder Woman 60 $3.99 36,966

RANK 51-100:
53 56 Aquaman 43 $3.99 30,920
59 62 Deathstroke 38 $3.99 28,803
61 66 Nightwing 54 $3.99 28,269
63 67 Harley Quinn 55 $3.99 27,742
65 52 Teen Titans 25 $4.99 27,285
69 73 Harley Quinn 56 $3.99 26,491
71 77 Nightwing 55 $3.99 26,060
72 79 Suicide Squad 49 $3.99 25,933
76 82 Titans 31 $3.99 24,870
83 86 Red Hood Outlaw 29 $3.99 24,026
84 87 Freedom Fighters 1 $3.99 23,836
92 72 Supergirl 25 $4.99 21,564
94 94 Advs of Super Sons 5 $3.99 20,965
96 96 Hawkman 7 $3.99 20,625
97 98 Batman Kings of Fear 5 $3.99 20,212
100 103 Green Arrow 47 $3.99 18,951


RANK 101-150:
106 109 Dreaming 4 $3.99 18,185
110 114 Goddess Mode 1 $3.99 17,471
120 126 Lucifer 3 $3.99 14,929
124 132 House of Whispers 4 $3.99 13,619
126 117 Suicide Sq Black Files 2 $4.99 13,378
136 88 New Talent Showcase 1 $7.99 11,803
147 181 Sideways 11 $2.99 11,150


RANK 151-200:
154 182 Damage 12 $2.99 10,713
156 153 Pearl 5 $3.99 10,584
159 152 Scooby Apocalypse 32 $3.99 10,514
162 158 Cover 4 $3.99 10,396
177 172 Injustice Vs. MOTU 5 $3.99 8,920
178 210 Curse of Brimstone 9 $2.99 8,707
180 179 Electric Warriors 2 $3.99 8,398
194 187 Border Town 4 $3.99 7,606
195 226 Unexpected 7 $2.99 7,547
197 191 American Carnage 2 $3.99 7,434


RANK 201-250:
201 196 United St Vs. Murder Inc 4 $3.99 7,164
221 139 Sasquatch Detective 1 $7.99 5,857


REORDERS + SCOOBY-DOO:
243 244 Batman 56 $3.99 4,881
257 281 Scooby Doo Where Are You 96 $2.99 4,214
333 350 Heroes In Crisis 3 $3.99 1,809
357 372 Heroes In Crisis 2 $3.99 1,389
381 405 Heroes In Crisis 1 $3.99 1,079
428 428 Wonder Woman 59 $3.99 765
435 440 Wonder Woman 58 $3.99 710
439 360 DC Nuclear Winter Sp 1 $9.99 699
441 442 Aquaman 42 $3.99 691
456 449 Justice League 12 $3.99 618
457 450 Superman 5 $3.99 618
462 431 Doomsday Clock 7 $4.99 604
477 469 American Carnage 1 $3.99 545
481 466 Detective Comics 993 $3.99 523
488 488 Green Arrow 46 $3.99 505
491 448 Aquaman JL Drowned Earth 1 $4.99 501
493 475 Batman 59 $3.99 498
498 496 Batman Kings of Fear 3 $3.99 469

[Punjabi_Hitman]

New Announced:
Batman and the Outsiders

Announced Ending:
Titans
Sideways
Curse of Brimstone
Damage
Green Arrow
Terrifics

Guaranteed to stay:
Action
Detective
Batman
Superman
Flash
Wonder Woman
Harley Quinn
Green Lantern
Aquaman
Justice League
Suicide Squad
Teen Titans
Shazam (because Johns writing and movie)

Most Likely Cancelled:
Justice League Dark
Justice League Odyssey
Hawkman
Freedom Fighters
Martian Manhunter

Unsure
Batgirl (depends if Birds of Prey is announced or not)
Nightwing
Deathstroke
RHO
Supergirl
If Titans will return
Catwoman

This leaves room for 2 more ongoings.

And since there is a movie coming I would say one of those would be Birds of Prey

[Korath]

The Terrifics is still published, it hasn't been announced to be cancelled. Same with The Silencer so far.

I seems to recall Freedom Fighters and Martian Manhunters being mini and maxi-series, respectively. And I fail to see why would DC can JLD, which is consistently great and sells well, and JLO which, while it had a rocky start, still has a strong following (I think) and allows them to develop a corner of the DCU rarely fleshed out without resorting to the usual Green Lantern Corps.

[Gaastra]

Supergirl has a shot at survival because of her TV show,

Don't forget a supergirl movie is in the works also. DC will want a comic out to promote it.


Would this effect the kids comics like looney tunes and dc supergirls? They are not part of the main dc universe and I heard they do well overseas.

[James Hunter]

The Terrifics is still published, it hasn't been announced to be cancelled. Same with The Silencer so far.

I seems to recall Freedom Fighters and Martian Manhunters being mini and maxi-series, respectively. And I fail to see why would DC can JLD, which is consistently great and sells well, and JLO which, while it had a rocky start, still has a strong following (I think) and allows them to develop a corner of the DCU rarely fleshed out without resorting to the usual Green Lantern Corps.

Your right, the FREEDOM FIGHTERS is a 12 issue maxi (I don't know about the Martian Manhunter) and TERRIFICS definitely isn't cancelled yet (I'm looking forward to seeing where the new creative team takes it, its an excelent title and I'll be sorry when it goes)

[MajorHoy]

JSA will likely be a title in the main lineup.

That is TOTALLY speculative with no real, tangible evidence to support it at this point.

If that was remotely likely, don't you think they would have returned before now?
That the collected edition of their early 1990s run that DC has been promising for a couple of years (even listing the availability of it in their "DC Essential Graphic Novels" catalogs in both 2017 and 2018) would have happened by now?

Now, I'm not saying it CAN'T happen, but until a new JSA series is actually available in stores, I wouldn't say it's definitely going to happen.

[Digifiend]

The Terrifics is still published, it hasn't been announced to be cancelled.

Yeah, quite the opposite, it's getting a new creative team.

Would this effect the kids comics like looney tunes and dc supergirls? They are not part of the main dc universe and I heard they do well overseas.

DC Superhero Girls is safe. It releases direct to TPB format and is part of one of the junior imprints. Looney Tunes I think is doomed. First Scooby Apocalypse bites the dust, now a team-up TPB has been cancelled. Have the rights been revoked?

[Frontier]

No way Suicide Squad goes dormant. But where does Harley go? Because I guarantee we will see a Gotham City Sirens book once the movie drops.

That's really not a book I'm looking forward to them bringing back if it's just for movie synergy.

[JonaX]

Yeah, quite the opposite, it's getting a new creative team.

DC Superhero Girls is safe. It releases direct to TPB format and is part of one of the junior imprints. Looney Tunes I think is doomed. First Scooby Apocalypse bites the dust, now a team-up TPB has been cancelled. Have the rights been revoked?

Given Scooby Doo is owned by WB which also owns DC, it would be odd to revoke the comic book rights especially since this year is Scooby's 50th anniversary plus a new movie in 2020, I wouldn't be surprised if Team Up is replaced by a comic version of Scooby Doo and Guess Who?