What New Identity Should Tim Drake Take?

[dietrich]

As Dick Grayson is my second favorite comic book character (second only to Wonder Woman) I am perfectly fine with him going back to the Grayson title and leaving Nightwing to Tim. Let Tim redesign the outfit to suit him, let Dick keep his black and blue (or go back to his SPIRAL suit with a mask.)

I'd be very cool with Dick going back to being a Spy. That is my favourite thing with Dick Grayson. It was fresh, fun and funny. I always felt that they could mix the 2. Nightwing and Agent 37. A globe trotting Nightwing who still lives in Blud.

It pushes him away from the Batman-lite role which I think hinders him. I don't much mind what he wears. the Nightwing or the Greys.

The fandom was split over Grayson and there were complaints when he returned to Spandex so why not combine the two?

Give him a cast that pulls the best from both titles. Helena, Tiger, The skull Girls, The Runoffs, Raptor, new blockbuster, Guppy etc.

[MajorHoy]

Yeah the Iconic suit that was designed for Dick. inspired by Dick and which the designer still refuses to this day to call anything but Dick Grayson's / his best Gift to Dick Grayson.

from Tales of the Teen Titans #44 (July 1984)

[Godlike13]

I'd be very cool with Dick going back to being a Spy. That is my favourite thing with Dick Grayson. It was fresh, fun and funny. I always felt that they could mix the 2. Nightwing and Agent 37. A globe trotting Nightwing who still lives in Blud.

It pushes him away from the Batman-lite role which I think hinders him. I don't much mind what he wears. the Nightwing or the Greys.

The fandom was split over Grayson and there were complaints when he returned to Spandex so why not combine the two?

Give him a cast that pulls the best from both titles. Helena, Tiger, The skull Girls, The Runoffs, Raptor, new blockbuster, Guppy etc.

Seeley tried to do that in a way. He would take turns with it though, where I think a more seemless and obvious combination would have been better served. But ya bringing Nightwing and Grayson together shouldn’t be very hard. Just call him Agent Nightwing. But unfortunately I think they missed that widow. Bludhaven overtook everything after Seeley, and now with Ric they are probably gonna have start completely fresh again to wash the taste out of everyone’s mouth.

[oasis1313]

Seeley tried to do that in a way. He would take turns with it though, where I think a more seemless and obvious combination would have been better served. But ya bringing Nightwing and Grayson together shouldn’t be very hard. Just call him Agent Nightwing. But unfortunately I think they missed that widow. Bludhaven overtook everything after Seeley, and now with Ric they are probably gonna have start completely fresh again to wash the taste out of everyone’s mouth.

I don't think anything about Ric can work to freshen the palate. He needs to be quietly scrapped; I don't any of us would complain if Ric starts an issue coming out of the shower and saying, "Oh, wait--my name is Dick!"

[dietrich]

Seeley tried to do that in a way. He would take turns with it though, where I think a more seemless and obvious combination would have been better served. But ya bringing Nightwing and Grayson together shouldn’t be very hard. Just call him Agent Nightwing. But unfortunately I think they missed that widow. Bludhaven overtook everything after Seeley, and now with Ric they are probably gonna have start completely fresh again to wash the taste out of everyone’s mouth.

Have they missed that window? Like you said "they are probably gonna have start completely fresh again to wash the taste out of everyone’s mouth".

I think that window just opened up again.

I miss Seeley. I was really loving his Nightwing.

[WonderNight]

Have they missed that window? Like you said "they are probably gonna have start completely fresh again to wash the taste out of everyone’s mouth".

I think that window just opened up again.

I miss Seeley. I was really loving his Nightwing.

what's up with seeley? Is he still with dc.

P.S someone should start a picth a Direction: Spoiler because I'm to lazy

[dietrich]

what's up with seeley? Is he still with dc.

P.S someone should start a picth a Direction: Spoiler because I'm to lazy

Yeah. He did the Injustice/Masters of the Universe crossover and is currently writing The Swamp Thing Giant.

[dropkickjake]

Since Dick is hellbent on being Ric now and no longer wants to be Nightwing.... make Tim the new Nightwing and keep Damian as the one and only Robin. I love Dick Grayson as a character and he's second only to Batman as my favorite DC hero. However, the current storyline with Dick (excuse me...Ric) is getting old fast. I know it's just a story and he'll be back eventually, but I'd rather see Tim sporting the black/blue tights than the characters currently wearing the outfits in the Nightwing title.

I think this would be a massive misstep for all parties involved. Starting with Tim, this would be simply one more example of him following a well trod path. Him following in Dick's footsteps yet again wouldn't be good for his character. I'm not really sure that Tim, in character that has been shown since flashpoint, would want the role; he hasnt been shown to be a close friend to Dick that I've seen. Without a closer connection between the two, Tim taking over as Nightwing because he's being pushed out of the Robin role would be bad for the mantle of Nightwing. It would become simply "Robin, phase 2."

There *could* be a well written story in which Dick lets go of the title, goes back to Spyral full time, and Damian takes the mantle. Damian and Dick have been shown to be close pretty consistently. They have a meaningful relationship and I could see Damian saying something along the lines of "I became Robin because of my father, but I became who I am because of Dick. My last name is Wayne, but I carry Dick Grayson's legacy as much as my own father's." Tim taking it would be more like "Oh is this costume free?"

I would rather Tim go back to full tilt Robin, Bruce's squire and leader of Young Justice, than for him to follow Dick.

[dietrich]

I think this would be a massive misstep for all parties involved. Starting with Tim, this would be simply one more example of him following a well trod path. Him following in Dick's footsteps yet again wouldn't be good for his character. I'm not really sure that Tim, in character that has been shown since flashpoint, would want the role; he hasnt been shown to be a close friend to Dick that I've seen. Without a closer connection between the two, Tim taking over as Nightwing because he's being pushed out of the Robin role would be bad for the mantle of Nightwing. It would become simply "Robin, phase 2."

There *could* be a well written story in which Dick lets go of the title, goes back to Spyral full time, and Damian takes the mantle. Damian and Dick have been shown to be close pretty consistently. They have a meaningful relationship and I could see Damian saying something along the lines of "I became Robin because of my father, but I became who I am because of Dick. My last name is Wayne, but I carry Dick Grayson's legacy as much as my own father's." Tim taking it would be more like "Oh is this costume free?"

I would rather Tim go back to full tilt Robin, Bruce's squire and leader of Young Justice, than for him to follow Dick.

Aah the feels. that's not too dissimilar to the sentiments that were conveyed in Nightwing Rebirth. Damian became a better person because of Dick and we can see what happened the minute Dick was no longer a part of his life [since he became Ric] Damian has been spiralling just like Bruce.

Even as Robin Damian carries Dick's legacy. I hope DC gets their crap together where Dick Grayson is concerned. Damian is a much better it for Nightwing than current Tim but Dick Grayson is the best fit.

You are right Nightwing shouldn't be Robin Phase 2.

[Godlike13]

Ya, dropkick gets it.

[Pohzee]

what's up with seeley? Is he still with dc.

P.S someone should start a picth a Direction: Spoiler because I'm to lazy

He just got appointed to managing editor at Heavy Metal.

[Godlike13]

Oh, wow. Good for him.

[Shriveling_memo]

Shouldnt baan, nightwing, redhood and robin be grades. Each step taking you towards being batman, and if you cant cut a particular level you either move on or stay at your grade.

[MajorHoy]

Shouldnt baan, nightwing, redhood and robin be grades. Each step taking you towards being batman, and if you cant cut a particular level you either move on or stay at your grade.

Dick wasn't "given" the Nightwing identity by Batman. You're making the different name "levels" sound like you're talking about the Boy Scouts, where the youngest kids start out as Cub Scouts, then become "Webelos" before becoming old enough to join the rank of "Boy Scouts".

(Maybe the Robins could work to earn merit badges in crime-fighting?)

[byrd156]

Dick wasn't "given" the Nightwing identity by Batman. You're making the different name "levels" sound like you're talking about the Boy Scouts, where the youngest kids start out as Cub Scouts, then become "Webelos" before becoming old enough to join the rank of "Boy Scouts".

(Maybe the Robins could work to earn merit badges in crime-fighting?)

Now I want an Elseworlds where all the Robins and Batgirls go to an 80s style summer camp. I would love a Wet Hot American Summer style Elseworld.