Rotten Tomatoes removes Want To See percentages for films not released yet.

[sammy_hansen]

Look at the text you highlighted, I said 'already starting ', a perfectly reasonable assessment based on the available data. If left uncorrected this trend, with the younger generation moving away from Marvel, could mean the end of the MCU as a franchise. In other words, my point from earlier is that Captain Marvel failed in it's purpose to attract a younger audience.

So, like I said, there's four days of date from one country. Do you honestly believe that's a good faith argument that CM failed to attract a younger audience from that tiny amount of data? Also, was that really the purpose of CM? Would've thought it was attracting more female viewers, which it seems to have done.

[Kintor]

So, like I said, there's four days of date from one country. Do you honestly believe that's a good faith argument that CM failed to attract a younger audience from that tiny amount of data? Also, was that really the purpose of CM? Would've thought it was attracting more female viewers, which it seems to have done.

There's no reason to single out my extrapolations compared to anyone else's posts in this thread, we all have access to the same limited week 1 data and make our predictions accordingly. Most are just interesting in this week itself, looking for something to be vindicated about in this latest little melodrama of our current culture war. Personally though, I tend to take a longer view, I was watching movies long before the MCU and I daresay I'll be watching long after the MCU is gone. It's simply a question of when the MCU starts to lose favour with the general audience, I believe now in 2019 we’re finally seeing signs of that happening.

[sammy_hansen]

There's no reason to single out my extrapolations compared to anyone else's posts in this thread, we all have access to the same limited week 1 data and make our predictions accordingly. Most are just interesting in this week itself, looking for something to be vindicated about in this latest little melodrama of our current culture war. Personally though, I tend to take a longer view, I was watching movies long before the MCU and I daresay I'll be watching long after the MCU is gone. It's simply a question of when the MCU starts to lose favour with the general audience, I believe now in 2019 we’re finally seeing signs of that happening.

Works better when you say "I believe" and "predictions" rather than your outright claims of previous posts.

"If the younger generation rejects the MCU outright, as is already starting to happen"

"Captain Marvel failed in it's purpose to attract a younger audience"

These are outrageous claims to make at this stage. It's just your opinion, with no substantial evidence behind them. If you say you take a longer view, how can you use 4 days worth of data to claim that the MCU has peaked? Weird.

[numberthirty]

There's no reason to single out my extrapolations compared to anyone else's posts in this thread, we all have access to the same limited week 1 data and make our predictions accordingly. Most are just interesting in this week itself, looking for something to be vindicated about in this latest little melodrama of our current culture war. Personally though, I tend to take a longer view, I was watching movies long before the MCU and I daresay I'll be watching long after the MCU is gone. It's simply a question of when the MCU starts to lose favour with the general audience, I believe now in 2019 we’re finally seeing signs of that happening.

One guy's take...

"Most" was just everyone that could easily see that what Larson said becoming what a very small number of people thought they could say she said was probably never going to happen.

Vindication is a non-issue because it was essentially a very small group of people saying "The sun is going to supernova tomorrow.", and everyone else saying "That isn't going to happen."

[Star_Jammer]

Hollywood is a fickle business, the success of the MCU is unprecedented but that's no reason to believe the brand is invincible. If the younger generation rejects the MCU outright, as is already starting to happen, then that's it - nothing Disney can do about it. In 10 years’ time the notion of a MCU movie making 150m opening week might seem a fevered dream in comparison.

I never said the MCU was invincible (I mean, I basically said everybody is dying...LOL). But rational people usually wait for a trend to happen before spelling doom and gloom.

You're not speaking from a very rational standpoint.

Where you spelling doom and gloom when Ant-man and the Wasp only opened to $75m? Or Doctor Strange's $85m? Or Ant-man's $57m?

No, you pick on the female-led title that opened to $155m.

[ed2962]

One guy's take...

"Most" was just everyone that could easily see that what Larson said becoming what a very small number of people thought they could say she said was probably never going to happen.

Vindication is a non-issue because it was essentially a very small group of people saying "The sun is going to supernova tomorrow.", and everyone else saying "That isn't going to happen."

I fully expect to see something close to, "The sun did go supernova, but the the media is trying to cover it up! It's proof that the SJWs run everything! Soy! Now donate to my Paetron..."

[BeastieRunner]

This thread proves why you should have a way to mitigate people that just spam hate things.

28,998 fan ratings on Fandango and it's sitting at 4.5 stars out of five. You had to have had a verified purchase to leave a rating.

RT made the right call in order to stay in business.

[Forseti]

Most are just interesting in this week itself, looking for something to be vindicated about in this latest little melodrama of our current culture war.

There is no culture war. There's just a tiny, irrelevant amount of people bickering in an echo chamber. The only issue is that they're made to look relevant by the media. RT has chosen not to be part of it, which is the smart move.

[Miles To Go]

There is no culture war.

...Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure

[Forseti]

...Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure

No, really. It takes an incredible amount of misplaced credulity to consider what is going on a culture war. It involves a tiny amount of people in a tiny corner of the world using their tiny minds to throw fits on a tiny corner of the internet to a tiny audience.

[BeastieRunner]

Culture wars tend to be things like climate change, gun rights, immigration, animal rights, the war on drugs, feminism, separation of church and state, family values, the crypto wars, porn, affirmative action, etc.

I'm eager to hear where this fits and why changing the audience feedback on a private website constitutes a culture war.

Unless your ideals, beliefs, philosophies, CORE ETHOS, if you will ... is assaulted by having a button taken away, you're going to be hard-pressed to prove to anybody that this a culture war.

It's not like you lost the right to vote.

A private entity took away the ability to give unsolicited and unhelpful comments air time. It was their choice.

Go create your own review aggregator if it bothers you so much.

[Pinsir]

This thread proves why you should have a way to mitigate people that just spam hate things.

28,998 fan ratings on Fandango and it's sitting at 4.5 stars out of five. You had to have had a verified purchase to leave a rating.

RT made the right call in order to stay in business.

Except we know fans of the MCU/Captain Marvel have also been actively engaging in review manipulation as well. You should not trust any populist poll surrounding this film, at least not for a few months.

[BeastieRunner]

Except we know fans of the MCU/Captain Marvel have also been actively engaging in review manipulation as well. You should not trust any populist poll surrounding this film, at least not for a few months.

How do you manipulate CinemaScore and Fandango either way?

That's right you can't like you could RT. They have had a mechanism to mitigate manipulation either way (verified purchase and in-person polling).

That just seems ... a bit paranoid.

[Pinsir]

How do you manipulate CinemaScore and Fandango either way?

That's right you can't like you could RT. They have had a mechanism to mitigate manipulation either way (verified purchase and in-person polling).

You can just admit you're wrong.

Giving a max score to a film is a form of review manipulation. We know from other review sites that the two highest scores for Captain Marvel are 1 and 10, the lowest and highest scores. This is done to have the max effect on the total aggregate score. Yeah, you aren't going to get the morons giving 1 stars using Fandango, but the same people that are inclined to score a 10 already are going to run wild on a site only they can vote on.

There is too much emotional energy surrounding both sides at the current moment to get a clear assessment of the 'public' view of this movie. The people who spent a month protecting this film are not going to provide an honest assessment of it.

[Variant]

Giving a max score to a film is a form of review manipulation. We know from other review sites that the two highest scores for Captain Marvel are 1 and 10, the lowest and highest scores. This is done to have the max effect on the total aggregate score. Yeah, you aren't going to get the morons giving 1 stars using Fandango, but the same people that are inclined to score a 10 already are going to run wild on a site only they can vote on.

There is too much emotional energy surrounding both sides at the current moment to get a clear assessment of the 'public' view of this movie. The people who spent a month protecting this film are not going to provide an honest assessment of it.

Yeah, I'm not buying the "both sides" argument at all. I find in terms of pure emotional energy - it's pretty one sided. The majority of CA supporters that I've seen on social media whether Twitter or Youtube, just think it's a fun mcu origin film. While other side rooting for a boycott thinks "Brie Larson hates white people" or "SJW's are ruining the MCU." There are certain Youtube channels that have posted non-stop CA videos in the last week. Anger is a powerful emotion and there's certainly no equivalence here. Captain Marvel has been out for ...4 days? Currently it already has more user ratings on RT than Infinity war that's been out for almost a year.

Not saying there aren't legitimate detractors. Because there are valid criticisms that can be made regarding the actual movie, but those people's assessments are being drowned out by trolls who seem more interested in a rallying cry for their suppose social/cultural war.