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    Default Too Many DC Focus on the Batman and family

    I’m tired...I’m just tired of DC and WB pushing all of these Batman themed titles and stories on us. Whatever happened to simplistic nature of Batman ?


    Just catching random crooks and rarely fighting Super mental criminals. Now its seems that almost anyone who has encountered Batman is damaged in someway or another....tell me you see a pattern in some form ?

    I mean unless we get a major DC Crisis level retcon of the entire DCU history...again...I can’t see how ine can be a fan of Batman and not get bogged down with his many history and family members.

    Also before anyone mentions too Many Green Lanterns...remember that there are sectors and adventures in space and the fact that Earth is the place for many cosmic trouble as of late.

    As Fans of Batman: What do you think of this ?
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    Um, what?

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    Batman sells.
    Le Suck it, Dolphin!

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    If you consume the stuff you like and ignore the stuff you don’t, this is a nonissue

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    Okay, sorry man but I am looking right now at the top selling books for comixology and amazon for graphic novels Batman and books featuring Bat family characters sell both the first volumes of Batman and Teen Titans Rebirth were in the top selling graphic novels. If I am DC and I want to make money I am going to keep printing all things Batman. Who knows someday Alfred may have a book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow6743 View Post
    Okay, sorry man but I am looking right now at the top selling books for comixology and amazon for graphic novels Batman and books featuring Bat family characters sell both the first volumes of Batman and Teen Titans Rebirth were in the top selling graphic novels. If I am DC and I want to make money I am going to keep printing all things Batman. Who knows someday Alfred may have a book.
    Your solution is to blindly kill all morons who only buy books with Batman, no matter how pathetically miserable those books are.

    Does that solve the problem for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJpyro View Post
    Batman sells.
    A million times this, case closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJpyro View Post
    Batman sells.
    This, he sells way too much for them to think about anything else because in their eyes thats what the people want.

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    Perhaps if we stop buying it. It's our fault really. Here I am buying yet more bat family titles and merch and DC isn't even holding a gun to my head.

    You can be a fan of batman and not get bogged down by his history and the family members. You don't have to follow them all and DC pushes them because [as others here have said and as i'm sure you know full well] a lot of people are willing to pay for them.

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    DC doesn't give any focus or push to Nightwing, and I'd sure pay out some serious money for it. As for the rest--it's like a buffet: If you want some, help your plate; if you don't leave it on the shelf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dietrich View Post
    Perhaps if we stop buying it. It's our fault really. Here I am buying yet more bat family titles and merch and DC isn't even holding a gun to my head.

    You can be a fan of batman and not get bogged down by his history and the family members. You don't have to follow them all and DC pushes them because [as others here have said and as i'm sure you know full well] a lot of people are willing to pay for them.
    It does not matter if you don't buy it. Stores will STILL stock it.

    He and his family are guaranteed shelf space.

    No matter WHO you pair him with. See Duke Thomas. For all that Duke hate-it did not hurt his mini nor his trade.


    I think a better question would be when will DC legitimately build up the other franchises. Yeah Batman is there but he can't be EVERYTHING to everybody. He can't counter what Carol Danvers, Miles, Deadpool, Black Panther and others bring to people.

    He needs help and no company would settle for seeing Batman as the only DC product in tops sale surrounded by Marvel products. That means you are missing out on MONEY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmbmool View Post
    As Fans of Batman: What do you think of this ?
    You mean "What do I think of someone who comes into a Batman fan forum and complains about too many Batman comics in the world"?

    Take a wild stab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmbmool View Post
    I’m tired...I’m just tired of DC and WB pushing all of these Batman themed titles and stories on us. Whatever happened to simplistic nature of Batman ?


    Just catching random crooks and rarely fighting Super mental criminals. Now its seems that almost anyone who has encountered Batman is damaged in someway or another....tell me you see a pattern in some form ?

    I mean unless we get a major DC Crisis level retcon of the entire DCU history...again...I can’t see how ine can be a fan of Batman and not get bogged down with his many history and family members.

    Also before anyone mentions too Many Green Lanterns...remember that there are sectors and adventures in space and the fact that Earth is the place for many cosmic trouble as of late.

    As Fans of Batman: What do you think of this ?
    There are multiple questions and problems there, two in your first sentence, for a moment I got confused by what you're asking. So I guess the problems are:
    1. There's too many Batman stories.
    2. Batman stories have become too psychological and there's rarely simple crimes anymore.
    3. There's too many family members and history.

    What do I think:
    1. Each superhero family group have their own section. If you're not looking at Batman section, you won't find him unless it's a Justice League or Trinity partnership. Unless you're talking about the movies, where the DCEU's tone and visual was presumably shaped by the success of The Dark Knight trilogy. Which is in example of business move affected by success.

    2. This, from what I've seen is caused by the success of those type of stories and even Batman villains in the past. Be it The Killing Joke, Mad Love, or Heart of Ice. So they double down on that because sales and fans response show that they want those stories and talk about them more than simple stories about catching crooks. The simple stories don't stand out as much in comparison.

    3. I agree. Every new creators now want to add a character to the lore, although some of the recent ones were created by limitations imposed by DC itself. DC banned the use of previous Batgirls, so Snyder created Harper Row. DC allowed Morrison to kill Damian, so both Tomasi and Snyder added their own Robin candidate... and then Damian was resurrected, forcing Tomasi to canned Carrie Kelley and Snyder shifting Duke to a different role.

    As for the aforementioned previous Batgirls and Robins, they exist because the old one grew up, died, or retired, so as a business that sells eternal iconic character, they make a new one, while a few years later, the old ones were brought back from the dead, or because they already have fans that demand them to be brought back.

    So as far as I can see, they're all logical development of this kind of business, except the number of family members where they are also mixed with creator ambition, executive bias, lack of foresight, and lack of understanding to what the fans want.

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