Originally Posted by
Revolutionary_Jack
In the USM comics they did show Kingpin that way and the only really good story is Learning Curve where Peter exposes Kingpin, shows him killing someone on camera and has him driven out of America. And then the later stories have Kingpin use magic law to get out of that. It got absurd. Don't 2016:Trump this and say it "used to be realistic but now it fits" that certainly wasn't how it was executed in context.
Kingpin outside Daredevil stories tends to become like Deathstroke in the Identity Crisis series. Deathstroke started out as a bad guy for a team of kid sidekicks and he worked there, and then they made him someone who could beat the Flash, Green Lantern and others in single combat and literally nobody bought that. In ITSV you have Kingpin Hulk who can throw cars and bosses around Goblin and Octopus and others, and yeah it made sense for the story they were telling (Kingpin is this dumb moron there for Miles to beat up and look good) but it's not exactly an effective story nor is it playing fair. Then in PS4 you have Spider-Man going after Kingpin and it basically has Kingpin and his thugs firing rocket launchers at cops and waging an actual military-style siege against law enforcement. Yeah real subtle there for a criminal mastermind. This also applies to Kingpin in Punisher stories. There is no sane or logical reason why Frank Castle shouldn't plug Fisk. Yet the stories keep going "someone worse will come along" and so on and so forth. To me the only satisfying way to do it, is not use Kingpin in Punisher stories. I mean editorial has a strict policy against "the last Punisher story" so why not this.