Quote Originally Posted by oldschool View Post
Yeah, I think you and I are saying the same thing----when I said he is undoubtedly a major figure in Spidey-lore, that is not the same thing as saying he is a major villain and I stand by it. He has had considerable impact/influence over the years so, while he is not on the Ock/Goblin/Venom threat level, he is a dangerous man with vast resources----as we saw in BIB.
I think an untouchable crime lord is such a great fit for Spider-Man's world. Peter is the guy who can't look away when bad things are happening...yet Kingpin creates this environment where even Spidey's most trusted allies are often telling him to choose the lesser between evils. Matt can accept, to a certain extent, that the system has to be played like a game, but Peter can't.