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    Looks great. Can't wait.
    I was trying to do too much and not doing any of it as well as I could. But I've had a change of mind... though not everyone shall enjoy it. I will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del torro View Post
    He converts himself from vapor to ice regularly, and ice to vapor. Like I mentioned, in his last series he converted a large amount of ice to vapor, he turned himself to vapor when fighting juggernaut and reformed as ice, also as a means of transport.
    When he froze a celestial ship, he was able to selectively unfreeze sections of it by converting the ice to vapour.
    https://i.imgur.com/nsYvx54.jpg

    He doesn't just freeze things, he can control the temperature gradient, so switching between States of H2O isn't a big deal
    https://i.imgur.com/1pRonlT.jpg
    https://pm1.narvii.com/6413/48c41d2f...9808404_hq.jpg

    If he can turn ice to vapor, then turning water to vapor should be child's play.

    Anyway, doesn't really matter. Just thought it would be a nice gesture to the people in the flooded area. Still looking forward to the book, I've missed Ice Wizard Sir Robert
    oh ok I stand corrected. I thought his thing was only to freeze things. I guess it would make sense he would able to do the opposite. But based on the last scan you showed reversing from ice to water seemed to be more taxing to him. It would appear it would require more energy to do a phase change from solid to liquid and then to vapor which is probably why he doesn't use that option often and just goes for freezing stuff. This would definitely align to chemistry as I believe the enthalpy required for phase changes is higher when converting liquid to gas than it is changing solid to liquid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strong Girl Daken View Post
    Love seeing Grace plant the seeds for his Uncanny run.
    Is Sina Grace gonna take over Uncanny?
    Last edited by WhitePhoenix; 03-07-2019 at 04:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    what is that Jugs fight from?

    Also to note that Emma did something similar in his body, turning to liquid to zipline across the city and then back to ice



    I dont think Marvel would waste the inevitable reuinion of those two in a book like this. That would be so anticlimatic and I hope JDW blocks Sina, if he has pitched it
    You know, I can't act find its source. I'll take it out incase it's not canon

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    oh ok I stand corrected. I thought his thing was only to freeze things. I guess it would make sense he would able to do the opposite. But based on the last scan you showed reversing from ice to water seemed to be more taxing to him. It would appear it would require more energy to do a phase change from solid to liquid and then to vapor which is probably why he doesn't use that option often and just goes for freezing stuff. This would definitely align to chemistry as I believe the enthalpy required for phase changes is higher when converting liquid to gas than it is changing solid to liquid.
    Well, he's done it more casually lately

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LeZRIPs_M...600/RCO018.jpg
    Converts his ice wing and giant Form to vapor (iceman 2018 #5)

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vLrUkxsQ0...600/RCO019.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Imv2vRTIp...600/RCO020.jpg
    Converts the ice encasing morlocks to vapor then uses the vapor to freeze people. (iceman 2018 #5)

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IilN6-UpF...600/RCO017.jpg
    Turns from ice to vapor and reforms behind juggernaut (iceman 2017 #5)

    If he can already casually convert solids to gas, then converting liquid to gas won't strain him. Normally it goes from ice>water>vapor

    Enthalpy of Sublimation (solid to gas) >>> Enthalpy of vaporization (liquid to gas) >>> Enthalpy of Fusion (Solid to liquid).

    He already has the required energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del torro View Post
    Well, he's done it more casually lately

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LeZRIPs_M...600/RCO018.jpg
    Converts his ice wing and giant Form to vapor (iceman 2018 #5)

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vLrUkxsQ0...600/RCO019.jpg
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Imv2vRTIp...600/RCO020.jpg
    Converts the ice encasing morlocks to vapor then uses the vapor to freeze people. (iceman 2018 #5)

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IilN6-UpF...600/RCO017.jpg
    Turns from ice to vapor and reforms behind juggernaut (iceman 2017 #5)

    If he can already casually convert solids to gas, then converting liquid to gas won't strain him. Normally it goes from ice>water>vapor

    Enthalpy of Sublimation (solid to gas) >>> Enthalpy of vaporization (liquid to gas) >>> Enthalpy of Fusion (Solid to liquid).

    He already has the required energy.
    Yes I agree with the science. Though the scans where he reabsorbs the armor is questionable that it's actually vapor or if it just weird artist rendering, has he ever done so to the level shown in the preview with all that water? Assuming that you are correct in your assessment of the panel, the amount of water he is turning to vapor is still no where near the amount he would have to do with the water in this preview. One could argue it would require less energy to do what he did versus trying to vaporize it all. Not saying he couldnt just that if he can do it a different way without exhausting himself why not?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    oh ok I stand corrected. I thought his thing was only to freeze things. I guess it would make sense he would able to do the opposite. But based on the last scan you showed reversing from ice to water seemed to be more taxing to him. It would appear it would require more energy to do a phase change from solid to liquid and then to vapor which is probably why he doesn't use that option often and just goes for freezing stuff. This would definitely align to chemistry as I believe the enthalpy required for phase changes is higher when converting liquid to gas than it is changing solid to liquid.
    He describes his unfreezing here:



    This was years ago and his skill has grown immensely to the point where he can control a small army of ice golems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    He describes his unfreezing here:



    This was years ago and his skill has grown immensely to the point where he can control a small army of ice golems
    thanks for additional reference. I've acknowledged I was incorrect about the freezing/unfreezing part but I'm still inclined to think him unfreezing liquid to solid especially large quantities of water would require more energy since he doesnt normally do it. and as del torro pointed out the energy to do so is higher than what is required to freeze objects or moisture. but this does explain things much better. again thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhitePhoenix View Post
    Is Sina Grace gonna take over Uncanny?
    Now there's a valid point - check out the logo! Uncanny is written differently from normal. So it could be the new UXM logo for when Age of X-Man ends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Now there's a valid point - check out the logo! Uncanny is written differently from normal. So it could be the new UXM logo for when Age of X-Man ends.
    Or just to let the viewer know, its not really associated with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhitePhoenix View Post
    Is Sina Grace gonna take over Uncanny?
    He is in my dreams

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhitePhoenix View Post
    Is Sina Grace gonna take over Uncanny?
    I hope not. He’s had 2 chances with X-books and he just does not move units. It would be a death sentence for Uncanny. Plus not a fan of his writing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurolegacy View Post
    I hope not. He’s had 2 chances with X-books and he just does not move units. It would be a death sentence for Uncanny. Plus not a fan of his writing.
    Apparently, neither are most readers by those sales. He would be as bad, if not worse than Guggs for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurolegacy View Post
    I hope not. He’s had 2 chances with X-books and he just does not move units. It would be a death sentence for Uncanny. Plus not a fan of his writing.
    Agreed, i dont get why he keeps getting work. This reads horribly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosocialize View Post
    Preview: http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com...nters-end-1-2/

    The line, "it's just been SMH 24/7, y'know?" made me crack up.
    That line made cringe tbh.

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