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    Wait hold on why would consent be up for questioning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ororo101 View Post
    Of course. The entire thing is creepy lol and it is a valid question to wonder how much consent these characters actually have in this world Nate created. I just don’t get the mentality of blaming things/relationships portrayed in a comic book story on real world “politics” or dynamics. Dislike whoever and whatever you want, it’s entirely your prerogative but some people just seem to take it a little far. It’s just a story after all.
    I was definitely trying to find the right words but you nailed it. Finding the relationship odd is cool and all, but saying politics are involved leads me to think of a certain gated community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ororo101 View Post
    Of course. The entire thing is creepy lol and it is a valid question to wonder how much consent these characters actually have in this world Nate created. I just don’t get the mentality of blaming things/relationships portrayed in a comic book story on real world “politics” or dynamics. Dislike whoever and whatever you want, it’s entirely your prerogative but some people just seem to take it a little far. It’s just a story after all.
    Oh, yeah, definitely, trying to inject "politics" into this is just silly, especially when it creates so many other interesting things to talk about here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroHomo View Post
    Even unwillingly(?) they kiiiiiiinda are
    Interracial couples are a real thing that happens in life. Much like blonde women who don't senselessly smile at all seconds of the day.

    The creeps should just deal with it. "Politics" or not.

    *shrugs*

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoCoBandz View Post
    Wait hold on why would consent be up for questioning?
    Not sure. They are on other universe where their stories changed and the world around them is different too.
    On the context of the story, consent seems pretty fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Not sure. They are on other universe where their stories changed and the world around them is different too.
    On the context of the story, consent seems pretty fine.
    Is it tho? it's kinda like 2 people find out they're siblings after a friend who knew they were related, set-up then watched in silence as their relationship became sexual

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroHomo View Post
    Is it tho? it's kinda like 2 people find out they're siblings after a friend who knew they were related, set-up then watched in silence as their relationship became sexual
    Well, it is another reality where no one is obligating them to have a relationship. The consent is blurred by being a AU, so it is not a perfect consent

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    Well, it is another reality where no one is obligating them to have a relationship. The consent is blurred by being a AU, so it is not a perfect consent
    But this isn't a traditional AU. These are still 616 characters who think they're native to this AU that Nate Grey created specifically to live out his own fantasy. He's basically treating most of the other characters like toys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoCoBandz View Post
    Wait hold on why would consent be up for questioning?
    Not saying it is but it has been shown that Nate has mentally manipulated the people in his AU into thinking and believing things that they wouldn’t normally. Hence everyone going along with his plan. Who knows if they would actually like or hook up with or have these feelings for each other in the 616 under their own agency?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ororo101 View Post
    Not saying it is but it has been shown that Nate has mentally manipulated the people in his AU into thinking and believing things that they wouldn’t normally. Hence everyone going along with his plan. Who knows if they would actually like or hook up with or have these feelings for each other in the 616 under their own agency?
    some people are ocmpletely different, like Blob. Psylocke would never give a damn about him on 616

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosebunse View Post
    But this isn't a traditional AU. These are still 616 characters who think they're native to this AU that Nate Grey created specifically to live out his own fantasy. He's basically treating most of the other characters like toys.
    You can say that characters didn't gave consent to whatever they are doing in this AU, because they are different people brainwashed by Nate
    Last edited by spirit2011; 03-12-2019 at 05:13 PM.

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    I know this is a little off topic, but does anyone else get the feeling that Kitty and Apocalypse are going to be in a sexual relationship with each other? Because if they are, then, well, I can certainly see the consent issue there since Kitty would never willingly have sex with Apocalypse in real life.

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    That sounds like kind of the crux of the issue. In the Aoxm, they all have fake memories put their by Nate and they’re acting on fake memories they think are real. Kitty thinks apocalypse not a bad hippie commune guy because Nate brainwashed her into thinking that. Kitty with her real memories wouldn’t think that (I hope it doesn’t go there with kitty and poccy, because, eww...) Jean and bishop aren’t nearly as bad because they are friends/ teammates, but it’s essentially the some problem, they’re both brainwashed and acting on fake memories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirit2011 View Post
    some people are ocmpletely different, like Blob. Psylocke would never give a damn about him on 616



    You can say that characters didn't gave consent to whatever they are doing in this AU, because they are different people brainwashed by Nate
    Idk in a lot of other AUs they actually are different characters entirely. From different dimensions or what not. So that would be a different story. Some are like this one though where they are the same people being manipulated mentally and physically. So if they do certain things with other people or things that they would vehemently be against, it’s definitely an argument for consent. We’re used to it from comics in general but it really is messed up if you think about it. Wanda’s just as guilty of this. Imagine finding out you did things with your body under the influence of a reality warper that you would generally feel was a violation of your person?

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    Zac Thompson said to read X-Tracts #1 before Marvelous #2.

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    If there is no 1,000+ post controversy when Kitty inevitably kisses Blueface tomorrow then I'm calling all ya'll out.
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