Captain Marvel (MCU) vs. the Justice League (DCEU)

[The Arbiter]

Their explosions while bombing the planet were visible from orbit. That's a scale much more powerful than any atomic bomb ever made.

Is this the scene in question?
https://youtu.be/AIcVuPpMgb8

Because if so, it's clearly NOT hundred mile wide nuke+ explosions. Nor is it direct impact.

Like you can smash a nuclear missile with a sledgehammer and break it up without it detonating as intended. Seems to be the same idea here.

Fantastic strength feat though.

[Powerboy]

Is this the scene in question?
https://youtu.be/AIcVuPpMgb8

Because if so, it's clearly NOT hundred mile wide nuke+ explosions. Nor is it direct impact.

Like you can smash a nuclear missile with a sledgehammer and break it up without it detonating as intended. Seems to be the same idea here.

Fantastic strength feat though.

The video has already been removed. Still, the very fact that Ronan the Accuser ordered the entire fleet to retreat with the attitude that they had no chance of winning this against one opponent says it all.

[KJS]

Makes me wonder what her role will be in Endgame.

I'm assume all the intricate stuff will go down in the Quantum Realm, then she'll smash Thanos sans the Infinity Stones.

But then, what role do Cap, Iron Man, Thor and Hulk play?

I imagine it was quite the task giving all these characters roles this time around, given that this massively powerful new player has entered the battle.

[Beadle]

I kind of assumed she’d show up at some point during Endgame, but we now know she’s there from the start, or at least she’s connected with Cap, Nat and Rhodey before the events of the movie.

[greatmetropolitan]

Just out of the movie!

Carol gets a hell of a strength feat by the end, she'll have no problem beating up, say, Thor and Hulk. Durability is fine, though she definitely wasn't tanking any nukes. Flying though explosions that had already gone off, and flying through a large spacecraft pretty easily were pretty cool though.

For this rumble, she stops hard at Clark, who is pretty effortlessly faster and can dish out way more than Carol has been shown to take. If she did somehow manage to land a clean hit, he'd feel it, but she ain't doing that.

Everyone else on team DC she treats with contemptuous ease, barring the flash, who she can't touch but who can't harm her.

[Powerboy]

Just out of the movie!

Carol gets a hell of a strength feat by the end, she'll have no problem beating up, say, Thor and Hulk. Durability is fine, though she definitely wasn't tanking any nukes. Flying though explosions that had already gone off, and flying through a large spacecraft pretty easily were pretty cool though.

For this rumble, she stops hard at Clark, who is pretty effortlessly faster and can dish out way more than Carol has been shown to take. If she did somehow manage to land a clean hit, he'd feel it, but she ain't doing that.

Everyone else on team DC she treats with contemptuous ease, barring the flash, who she can't touch but who can't harm her.

I took it what was being conveyed was that she was flying through them while they were in the process of exploding but I suspect we won't have any consensus on this.

[Harbinger19]

I kind of assumed she’d show up at some point during Endgame, but we now know she’s there from the start, or at least she’s connected with Cap, Nat and Rhodey before the events of the movie.

I took that more as being an actual scene from Endgame, since it looks exactly like a scene in the trailer. Kind of like when they showed the Civil War scene with Cap and Falcon and Bucky at the end of Ant-Man.

[rhyvurg]

she'll have no problem beating up, say, Thor and Hulk.

Durability is fine, though she definitely wasn't tanking any nukes.

These seem contradictory, Thor survived several minutes of exposure to a star, which is orders of magnitude greater than a nuke. Also in his first movie Thor sans any later upgrades wasted an entire city with one attack with Mjolnir, and Stormbreaker is much more powerful. I haven't seem CM but based on what people are saying here she's still pretty much competing for second place with Strange. Honestly she sounds more like Vision who traded phasing for better energy attacks.

flying through a large spacecraft pretty easily were pretty cool though.

Thor did that in Wakanda.

[Captain Morgan]

These seem contradictory, Thor survived several minutes of exposure to a star, which is orders of magnitude greater than a nuke. Also in his first movie Thor sans any later upgrades wasted an entire city with one attack with Mjolnir, and Stormbreaker is much more powerful. I haven't seem CM but based on what people are saying here she's still pretty much competing for second place with Strange. Honestly she sounds more like Vision who traded phasing for better energy attacks.



Thor did that in Wakanda.

I believe greatmetropolitan is going with the assumption that the star thing was SMvsFL. And without sharing my personal opinion on the matter, there's definitely a case for that.

I kind of feel like we need to put an asterisk in the OP of Thor fight over whether that feat is SMvsFL for purposes of that particular thread. Either that or just get a mod ruling. How well he does in a rumbles is so very, very dependent on that question.

[Powerboy]

I believe greatmetropolitan is going with the assumption that the star thing was SMvsFL. And without sharing my personal opinion on the matter, there's definitely a case for that.

I kind of feel like we need to put an asterisk in the OP of Thor fight over whether that feat is SMvsFL for purposes of that particular thread. Either that or just get a mod ruling. How well he does in a rumbles is so very, very dependent on that question.

The thing is that with Thor, we have enough showings to distinguish "consistent high-end" from outlier. With Captain Marvel at full power, we have a couple of minutes at the end. At this point, there's nothing to contradict her showing there and make it an outlier.

If we were to say the Thor star feat and the other one mentioned were legitimate, we'd have a case for Thor still being more powerful. But, if we do that, Pendaran's gonna come in here and scalp us worse than Stan Lee scalped Thor in "Thor: Ragnarok".

Edit: I also have a strong feeling what the ruling would be on the Thor star feat if only because of what the implications would be were it legitimate. It would probably make everything else he does P.I.S.

[choptop]

happened outside the atmosphere, where Superman regenerates constantly.

who said thats how he's powers whork in the movie?

[Tomzilla]

For the sake of discussion, let's say the Thor/Neutron Star feat was an outlier. What are Thor's high-end durability feats?

[theoneandonly]

why they didn't call her blasts cosmic blasts seeing they were derived from the tesseract energies instead of photon blasts is what I would like to know.(aside from the obvious as for the fights she should take most of the combatants expect for Superman though maybe the others can be said to have greater experience in superhuman combat whereas she hasn't done anything like that.

[Beadle]

I took that more as being an actual scene from Endgame, since it looks exactly like a scene in the trailer. Kind of like when they showed the Civil War scene with Cap and Falcon and Bucky at the end of Ant-Man.

Yeah, but that’s not how they do these things. One scene segues into the next movie. Like the end of Ragnarok segueing into the start of Infinity War.

[The Drunkard Kid]

why they didn't call her blasts cosmic blasts seeing they were derived from the tesseract energies instead of photon blasts is what I would like to know.(aside from the obvious as for the fights she should take most of the combatants expect for Superman though maybe the others can be said to have greater experience in superhuman combat whereas she hasn't done anything like that.

The Kree didn't really know that the Tesseract/Space Stone was the Core that they were looking for, but they did know that "Vers" got her powers from a Faster Than *Light* drive, so they may have based the name off of that, I guess.