Captain Marvel (DC) vs. Blue Marvel

[Pendaran]

And he has such an epic supporting cast as well. Instead everyone has a hard on for Black Adam, who don't get me wrong, is cool and all but is best written as a dark counterpart instead of the main attraction. And then there's Sivana, the original mad scientist, Captain Nazi, Marvel Jr, Mary, tawny, the Rock of Eternity

All I'm saying is, if Aquaman can become a billion dollar franchise, Captain Marvel not even headlining his own solo is frankly, criminal

Iii... don't have a lot of hopes for that Shazam movie if I'm going to be honest. I'll be happy to be pleasantly surprised, but it being some kind of colossal megahit is the only hope in hell Billy has of ever even maybe getting decent writing again.

[Slade1]

Iii... don't have a lot of hopes for that Shazam movie if I'm going to be honest. I'll be happy to be pleasantly surprised, but it being some kind of colossal megahit is the only hope in hell Billy has of ever even maybe getting decent writing again.

The critics are actually raving about how good it is. The embargo doesn't lift until March 23rd but check out twitter. I haven't seen one negative critic.

[Pendaran]

The critics are actually raving about how good it is. The embargo doesn't lift until March 23rd but check out twitter. I haven't seen one negative critic.

I more mean financially, WB has barely been promoting it and the estimates for its opening weekend are somewhat mediocre as they currently stand. I'm hoping they step that up in the next few weeks before it releases.

[Powerboy]

I more mean financially, WB has barely been promoting it and the estimates for its opening weekend are somewhat mediocre as they currently stand. I'm hoping they step that up in the next few weeks before it releases.

Considering that it's being released four weeks after "Captain Marvel" and three weeks before "Endgame", I'm not seeing it being a raving hit. But I read somewhere that it cost $75-85 million to make, very lightweight by today's standards for a superhero movie. So if it makes $200 million total, it will still be considered a success. I think that, given the WB's choice to release it against such insane competition, that's all they are demanding is that it makes a profit. Hopefully, it will and there will be more Capt- ahem, Shazam movies.

[HATEISFOREVER]

The budget for shazam is low. So it doesn't need to do huge herculean numbers to do well. The main point is to go from lighthearted to serious,but not BvS serious. He cannot be joking and acting like an awestruck idiot the whole time.

[theoneandonly]

I keep imagining a fight where they keep punching each other to space(only for the knocked up opponent to return at super speed) without a result.

[Pendaran]

Considering that it's being released four weeks after "Captain Marvel" and three weeks before "Endgame", I'm not seeing it being a raving hit. But I read somewhere that it cost $75-85 million to make, very lightweight by today's standards for a superhero movie. So if it makes $200 million total, it will still be considered a success. I think that, given the WB's choice to release it against such insane competition, that's all they are demanding is that it makes a profit. Hopefully, it will and there will be more Capt- ahem, Shazam movies.

That relegates it to a sort of second tier afterthought though is my annoyance there.

[Slade1]

That relegates it to a sort of second tier afterthought though is my annoyance there.

Maybe, but it seems to be that their target audience is younger kids (well younger than the MCU crowd) so it doesn't have to compete against those two.

[Nik Hasta]

I think Shazam (the film) is a good move by DC films.

It's effectively their shot at the Deadpool angle; low budget, slightly more comedic/deconstructionist take on the genre, charismatic lead with quotable lines and so on.

I don't know if it'll be as wildly successful as Deadpool was but I think it will do solid work and, fortunately, due to the lower budget it doesn't have to set the world on fire to be successful.

[Beadle]

That relegates it to a sort of second tier afterthought though is my annoyance there.

Which worked out OK for Deadpool, really.

[choptop]

It used to be until around 2012 where they just changed it to Shazam.

I refuse to call him that he's Captain Marvel!

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

I refuse to call him that he's Captain Marvel!

The reason they gave for changing it to Shazam in 2012, was:

"Well, there are a lot of reasons for the change. One is that everybody thinks he's called Shazam already, outside of comics. It's also, for all sorts of reasons, calling him Shazam just made sense for us. And, you know, every comic book he's in right now has Shazam on the cover. So I think just by embracing that and calling him Shazam."

[Beadle]

The reason they gave for changing it to Shazam in 2012, was:

"Well, there are a lot of reasons for the change. One is that everybody thinks he's called Shazam already, outside of comics. It's also, for all sorts of reasons, calling him Shazam just made sense for us. And, you know, every comic book he's in right now has Shazam on the cover. So I think just by embracing that and calling him Shazam."

Which is frankly all bollocks.

In summary, what they’re saying is “Umm... some people who are just guessing might possibly think he’s also called Shazam but not really anybody who actually knows the character at all and there’s... err... some reasons, and... ah... we’ve gradually moved towards this for a while by putting Shazam on the covers, so we’ve self-justified this whole thing, and we’re not at all going to mention that the name is just like our big rivals who’ve also had about a bazillion (5?) characters called Captain Marvel.”

Is Mary now called Mary Shazam? Is Freddy now Shazam Jr.? How does that stuff even work?

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

Which is frankly all bollocks.

In summary, what they’re saying is “Umm... some people who are just guessing might possibly think he’s also called Shazam but not really anybody who actually knows the character at all and there’s... err... some reasons, and... ah... we’ve gradually moved towards this for a while by putting Shazam on the covers, so we’ve self-justified this whole thing, and we’re not at all going to mention that the name is just like our big rivals who’ve also had about a bazillion (5?) characters called Captain Marvel.”

Is Mary now called Mary Shazam? Is Freddy now Shazam Jr.? How does that stuff even work?

"Cost a lotta money to keep fighting with Marvel."

[Nik Hasta]

Is Mary now called Mary Shazam? Is Freddy now Shazam Jr.? How does that stuff even work?

To be fair, Mary Shazam is an awesome name.