Who would you say is Spider-Man’s most overrated rogue?

[PCN24454]

I’m gonna have to go with Kraven.

Looking back on his stories made me realize that I never liked any of them.

[CrimsonEchidna]

I'm kind of indifferent to Morlun and the inheritors in comparison to how prominent they were for a while.

[Nero]

Disagree on it being Kraven. Prior to KLH, Kraven was hardly treated as that much of a big deal to be overrated.

I could see a solid case being made for Eddie Brock's Venom. During his time as a Spider-Man rogue, I liked Venom but a lot of that had to do with the way he was designed which in essence seemed like he was more flash than substance especially in comparison to other Spider-Man villains that had more layers to their character (Dr. Octopus, Norman Osborn/Green Goblin, Kraven, Roderick Kingsley/Hobgoblin, etc).

[TheCape]

Venom is one of those characters that worked better as a concept than in actual practice, we have two good stories with him, but he isn't as much of a big deal as a villain as most casual fans seems to think, mostly because his popularity make Marvel trying to put him as an anti-hero, when..... well that's definitely not what Eddie was. He can still be a cool villain, he has concept that is strong enough to be Peter's "Dark Reflection", but he never quite got there.

[Snoop Dogg]

what does electro even do

[Frontier]

Post-Slott I'm kind of over Doc Ock.

[ngroove]

what does electro even do

Back in his stories from the sixties - early nineties, a Spider-Man vs Electro fight was actually fun and flashy, with him flying atop lightning and flying his lightning bolts around, and Spidey slinging, jumping, and dodging them, and finding ways to beat him, like opening a fire hydrant, grounding himself with wire, and wearing an insulated costume.

Then in 1993, been given a backstory, Maxwell Dillion, a sad, pathetic man who was rejected and looked down on from his ex-wife and even his mother, that deepened him enough for a couple more compelling stories with him.

Then afterwards, just an occassional supposed next-level super-charge of his electrical powers just to attempt to make it look like he's badder, but mostly still only in the name of crime and scores, and still stomped on repeatedly by Spider-Man.

He still had, my opinion, a staple classic Marvel super villain costume, and his part of being among the more flashier super-powered 1/6th of the Sinister Six. And his appearances in Untold Tales of Spider-Man, issues #7 and #11, purely fun to read ever since I first read them when I was a kid.

[manymade1]

Venom is one of those characters that worked better as a concept than in actual practice, we have two good stories with him, but he isn't as much of a big deal as a villain as most casual fans seems to think, mostly because his popularity make Marvel trying to put him as an anti-hero, when..... well that's definitely not what Eddie was. He can still be a cool villain, he has concept that is strong enough to be Peter's "Dark Reflection", but he never quite got there.

I came in here to basically say this. He has a couple of solid stories but his popularity got the better of him. He's been portrayed as more of an anti-hero than a villain.

[Alan2099]

Wow, how did I not say this? Makes Electro look like an ocean of depth. At least Max has original powers. And isn't the star of the worst Spider-Man story.

I'm not sure what storyline you're thinking of so I'm just going to assume it's Planet of the Symbites.

[NC_Yankee]

I’m gonna have to go with Kraven.

Looking back on his stories made me realize that I never liked any of them.

I am going with Jackal. I have yet to read the Jackal story that I actually liked.

[Obeythemoderators]

I am going with Jackal. I have yet to read the Jackal story that I actually liked.

Have you read the original Clone Saga from the 70's?

[NC_Yankee]

Have you read the original Clone Saga from the 70's?

I did and was no fan ( although it was not the worst story I read).

[Reilly]

Venom and Carnage (actually every symbiote that ever existed). I don't understand what's so cool about them. Venom at least resembles the black suit of Spider-Man and he evolved into something more than just a bad guy (for example Agent Venom), but Carnage? He has edgy design, does everything the same all the time and always talks about same things. I don't know why he's so liked amongst fandom.

[Obeythemoderators]

Venom and Carnage (actually every symbiote that ever existed). I don't understand what's so cool about them. Venom at least resembles the black suit of Spider-Man and he evolved into something more than just a bad guy (for example Agent Venom), but Carnage? He has edgy design, does everything the same all the time and always talks about same things. I don't know why he's so liked amongst fandom.

I have a hard time seeing how all the symbiotes are overrated when most of them have been bearly used for most of their existance.

[Rigel]

Venom and Carnage (actually every symbiote that ever existed). I don't understand what's so cool about them. Venom at least resembles the black suit of Spider-Man and he evolved into something more than just a bad guy (for example Agent Venom), but Carnage? He has edgy design, does everything the same all the time and always talks about same things. I don't know why he's so liked amongst fandom.

I like Carnage because for me he is "Venom done right". Venom is supposed to be a villain, but latter the writer wanted him to be a villain AND a good guy at the same time, what made the character extremely confused and inconsistent, with his motivations being all over the place (at the point that, to this day, readers doesn't know for sure if he's a bad or a good guy). For the other side, Carnage is clearly an enemy of spider-man, being more consistent with his motivations, as simple these could be. The menacing threat that he represents for being a true psycho with superpowers, plus he having a good sense of humor, made me like Carnage as a character.

For me Venom is clearly the most underrated spider-man villain of all time. Cool design and concept, but that's it.