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    Default Pitch Your Superman-without-Superman TV Show

    Supergirl, Krypton, that upcoming Lex and Lois show or whatever, we may all want, desperately want, another proper live action Superman show, but sad fact is we won't get it. So, in light of this, what kind of Superman show without Superman would you like to see?

    Me, I think a Reign of the Supermen series could work well. Set after the Death of Superman (which we only get to see snippets of the fight, like on news reports and flashbacks throughout the first season), we focus on characters like Lois, Steel, and Superboy, and even do some episodes from the point of view of Cyborg Superman and the Eradicator, each doing their own thing and shaping the new Metropolis around them. We'd even see a few ruined streets and destroyed buildings from the Doomsday fight in the background and the rebuilding process taking place. Like little hints of just how epic a fight that must have been, but you know, without making us watch Superman die again for the umpteenth time.

    You would have Lois as the emotional hook of the show, grieving Clark while investigating these new Supermen, and providing the Daily Planet stuff, like in the animated movie. You'd have your fun, superhero escapism and action provided by Steel and Superboy (with the clone origin and Lex Luther connection). You'd have the other two "Supermen" providing drama and darker tones, even dipping into some horror elements from time to time. You could even get Jimmy some time to shine to inject some more humor here and there. The old something for everybody approach. And keeping the stakes high but most of the threats a bit more earth based, should still manage to make it look good on a TV budget only a bit larger than say Supergirl or the Flash.

    I don't know who I'd want in all the roles, I don't know all about current TV actors like some, but I do know I want to make them feel as comic accurate as possible in terms of personality.

    Anyways, that's what I'd like to see done. What spinoff without Superman but set in his world would you like?

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    A Metropolis show revolving around Maggie Sawyer and Dan Turpin as the city struggles with the arrival of super powered criminals and the machinations of Lex Luthor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    A Metropolis show revolving around Maggie Sawyer and Dan Turpin as the city struggles with the arrival of super powered criminals and the machinations of Lex Luthor.
    I'd take that a little broader and go for basically The Wire but set in Metropolis, pulling in The Metropolis PD, building up to the Special Crimes Unit, Intergang, but also with a focus on The Daily Planet and Luthor and LexCorp's influence politically and criminally. You could build toward Superman's appearance at the end and even work in the pre-Superman Invisible Mafia.
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    For many decades now I've wanted a half hour sit-com with Jimmy Olsen as the lead. Long ago, I even found what would be the theme song--"Superman" by the Kinks (from the 1979 album, LOW BUDGET).

    Think of POWERLESS mixed with THE MARY TYLER MOOR SHOW and that's pretty much it. Clark would appear, but never Superman. The characters would talk about the Man of Steel and what he was up to, but the bulk of the show would be about young Jimmy, his hapless romances and oddball adventures. If there was room in the budget, we could even see some fantastic transformations for our Jim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post
    For many decades now I've wanted a half hour sit-com with Jimmy Olsen as the lead.
    I am not much for sitcoms, but if we can not get Olsen as the lead role in anything else I guess I am all for it.

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    CONNER KENT and CASSIE SANDSMARK (with guest stars Bart Allen,Tim Drake)

    Conner Kent:
    -Full Kryptonian Powers,TTK
    -25 Years old
    -tall,muscular guy
    -Superman Symbol Tattoo on his right Arm..
    -the blue/red leather jacket Superboy Outfit
    -nice,but self-confident

    Cassie Sandsmark
    -Amazon Style so she is tall,muscular,pretty (like the Artemis in the DC Comic Series, Diana in the Pre-Flashpoint Comics)
    -Conners Girlfriend
    -using Sword,Shield and her electrokinesis and her Lasso
    -as powerful as Diana is


    I would REALLY REALLY like to see that...

    Not like the Supergirl Series, but see a Super-Charakter who is like Terminator, unstoppable etc., not having Drama,Romance etc. but having the Titans of Tomorrow Conner with the Attitude of the Conner from start...Making Jokes,Trashtalking while catching bullets,beating villains,ripping tanks in half etc.

    Paired with a good looking blonde Amazon who is also extremely powerful and because of her skills with swords and shield she can fight with bare hands and sword and shield...


    That paired with Bart Allen who is there for the funny scenes and also helps them-would be very awesome...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
    I'd take that a little broader and go for basically The Wire but set in Metropolis, pulling in The Metropolis PD, building up to the Special Crimes Unit, Intergang, but also with a focus on The Daily Planet and Luthor and LexCorp's influence politically and criminally. You could build toward Superman's appearance at the end and even work in the pre-Superman Invisible Mafia.
    I’m so sad this will never happen now.

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    Super Sons.

    Seriously surprised it hasn't been greenlit for an animated series yet.

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    This was my idea a few years back. A show based on PAD's Supergirl series.

    https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1158938...-show-Season-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    Super Sons.

    Seriously surprised it hasn't been greenlit for an animated series yet.
    Me too. Although I wonder, are children one of the demographic targets for DC Universe? The content there so far is pretty adult. CN is a lost cause, they couldn’t even get a Batman cartoon to do well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    Super Sons.

    Seriously surprised it hasn't been greenlit for an animated series yet.
    SEan Galloway posted some designs he did for a pitch for a Super Sons series to WB that apparently didn't get picked up not to long ago.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bu-Qc9pn..._web_copy_link

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackalope89 View Post
    Super Sons.

    Seriously surprised it hasn't been greenlit for an animated series yet.
    I’d be surprised if Superman, Jr and Batman, Jr are actually remembered by that many people. I’d really like to see them used more too, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakanai View Post
    Supergirl, Krypton, that upcoming Lex and Lois show or whatever, we may all want, desperately want, another proper live action Superman show, but sad fact is we won't get it. So, in light of this, what kind of Superman show without Superman would you like to see?

    Me, I think a Reign of the Supermen series could work well. Set after the Death of Superman (which we only get to see snippets of the fight, like on news reports and flashbacks throughout the first season), we focus on characters like Lois, Steel, and Superboy, and even do some episodes from the point of view of Cyborg Superman and the Eradicator, each doing their own thing and shaping the new Metropolis around them. We'd even see a few ruined streets and destroyed buildings from the Doomsday fight in the background and the rebuilding process taking place. Like little hints of just how epic a fight that must have been, but you know, without making us watch Superman die again for the umpteenth time.

    You would have Lois as the emotional hook of the show, grieving Clark while investigating these new Supermen, and providing the Daily Planet stuff, like in the animated movie. You'd have your fun, superhero escapism and action provided by Steel and Superboy (with the clone origin and Lex Luther connection). You'd have the other two "Supermen" providing drama and darker tones, even dipping into some horror elements from time to time. You could even get Jimmy some time to shine to inject some more humor here and there. The old something for everybody approach. And keeping the stakes high but most of the threats a bit more earth based, should still manage to make it look good on a TV budget only a bit larger than say Supergirl or the Flash.

    I don't know who I'd want in all the roles, I don't know all about current TV actors like some, but I do know I want to make them feel as comic accurate as possible in terms of personality.

    Anyways, that's what I'd like to see done. What spinoff without Superman but set in his world would you like?
    That sounds really great, I would love that.
    The Bizarro World mini series sound really interesting too.
    There was talk of a Metropolis series starring Lois and Lex before Superman arrives, that sounded interesting. Anybody know if that's still happening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakanai View Post
    Supergirl, Krypton, that upcoming Lex and Lois show or whatever, we may all want, desperately want, another proper live action Superman show, but sad fact is we won't get it. So, in light of this, what kind of Superman show without Superman would you like to see?
    So now that we are going to get an actual live action Superman TV show after all, does this kill any plans for a Superman-less live action TV show, or could someone still move forward with one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris-Rex View Post
    So now that we are going to get an actual live action Superman TV show after all, does this kill any plans for a Superman-less live action TV show, or could someone still move forward with one?
    I wouldn't see the point. These Superman-less shows were likely planned because, the prospect of having a Superman show was likely off the table. But this is no longer the case so there isn't really any reason to go forward with them, when you can have a show actually focused on the man himself instead of his supporting characters, who are likely to be in the Superman show anyway.

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