Who do you consider to be most "Avengery" Avengers??

[gurkle]

First, thanks for this idea.

I'm pretty conventional, I think the degree of being an Avenger-y Avenger depends on how much of their history and character development took place in the Avengers. This is pretty unfair to new characters because it means that characters from the '60s have an inherent advantage and it's rare that a new character can break through like Monica Rambeau under Roger Stern or Luke Cage under Bendis. So maybe I'll break it down by the decade they joined, so it won't all be '60s characters (it's too early to tell about the '10s):

'60s: Hank Pym, Wasp, the Scarlet Witch, Vision, Hawkeye
'70s: Beast, Wonder Man, Black Widow, Carol Danvers
'80s: Monica Rambeau, She-Hulk, Tigra, Mockingbird
'90s: Uhhh.... I don't know. Crystal was there for a long time but pretty much no one thinks of her as an Avenger first.
'00s: Luke Cage, Jessica Drew

I also think of the "Big Three," Captain America is the most Avenger-y, because he really has had a lot of his character development (including his defrosting) in the Avengers, and Thor the least. Tony Stark is in between, since he pays for everything but doesn't devote as much of his time as Cap does.

And I'll agree that the most Avenger-y of them all has to be the Vision. Even Martian Manhunter had a life in comics before the Justice League. Vision's dad is the Avengers' arch-foe, his dad's creator is a founding Avenger, his wife is an Avenger, his (sort-of) kids are Young Avengers, the guy represents the Avengers so much that they couldn't even kill him off in Avengers Disassembled without almost immediately creating a new Vision for Young Avengers.

[TheRay]

Anyone can be an Avenger. That's what makes the main two teams in comics (Avengers and Justice League) so great, anyone can join (within reason).

I think Goliath might be the only other hero that I would add to your list, but I might have to think on it longer.

[Omega Alpha]

Even though Cap seems like the obvious answer, the "Big Three" all have their own worlds outside of the Avengers. The most "Avengery" of Avengers are the ones you cannot think of outside of the Avengers. To me, that's best represented by The Vision. It doesn't quite ever feel like the real Avengers without him and I cannot imagine him outside of the Avengers. He was born in that book and everything that was even important to him happened in that book.

Well, The Vision had a fantastic solo recently exactly about him out of the Avengers building a family... literally.

But I can't imagine The Vision outside an Avengers-related team, so you might have a point, though Hawkeye, Wasp and Henry Pym might be candidates at least as strong.

For the JLA and the X-men, it's easier to answer though: it's Martian Manhunter and Cyke, fewer room for debate, I think.

[Steroid]

The Vision, Hawkeye, Spectrum, and Wonder Man.

[pageturner]

the founders
Hawkeye
Wanda
BP
Luke Cage
Spiderman
Vision
She Hulk
Beast
Wonderman
War Machine
Tigra
Herc
Spectrum
Black Widow

and of course Jarvis

[CRaymond]

The Busiek roster.

Iron Man
Captain America
Thor
Hawkeye
Vision
Scarlet Witch

[Tycon]

Wasp
Spectrum
Jarvis
Captain America
Toni Ho
Black Widow
Hawkeye
Thor
Falcon
Tigra
Scarlet Witch
Beast
Black Knight
Quasar
Vision

[ARkadelphia]

Triathlon.

I see your Triathlon and raise you Silverclaw.

Seriously though, I’ve always felt that there were 8 core avengers. You didn’t need all of them at once, but the more you had, the more it felt like the avengers...

Steve
TONY
Thor
Vision
Wanda
Hank Pym
Jan
Clint

[dreyga2000]

Wasp
Spectrum
Jarvis
Captain America
Toni Ho
Black Widow
Hawkeye
Thor
Falcon
Tigra
Scarlet Witch
Beast
Black Knight
Quasar
Vision

Those are some unorthodox choices, especially Toni Ho, what about them screams Avenger to you?

[maklelin highbain]

First, thanks for this idea.

I'm pretty conventional, I think the degree of being an Avenger-y Avenger depends on how much of their history and character development took place in the Avengers. This is pretty unfair to new characters because it means that characters from the '60s have an inherent advantage and it's rare that a new character can break through like Monica Rambeau under Roger Stern or Luke Cage under Bendis. So maybe I'll break it down by the decade they joined, so it won't all be '60s characters (it's too early to tell about the '10s):

'60s: Hank Pym, Wasp, the Scarlet Witch, Vision, Hawkeye
'70s: Beast, Wonder Man, Black Widow, Carol Danvers
'80s: Monica Rambeau, She-Hulk, Tigra, Mockingbird
'90s: Uhhh.... I don't know. Crystal was there for a long time but pretty much no one thinks of her as an Avenger first.
'00s: Luke Cage, Jessica Drew

I also think of the "Big Three," Captain America is the most Avenger-y, because he really has had a lot of his character development (including his defrosting) in the Avengers, and Thor the least. Tony Stark is in between, since he pays for everything but doesn't devote as much of his time as Cap does.

And I'll agree that the most Avenger-y of them all has to be the Vision. Even Martian Manhunter had a life in comics before the Justice League. Vision's dad is the Avengers' arch-foe, his dad's creator is a founding Avenger, his wife is an Avenger, his (sort-of) kids are Young Avengers, the guy represents the Avengers so much that they couldn't even kill him off in Avengers Disassembled without almost immediately creating a new Vision for Young Avengers.

i would add Black Knight and at a stretch Sersi into your 90s group

[Digifiend]

Those are some unorthodox choices, especially Toni Ho, what about them screams Avenger to you?

You do realise that Toni has mostly only appeared in Ewing's Avengers books? The only other appearances that come to mind are the current Captain America run and Bendis's last Iron Man arc. She's a recent creation, but she's definitely more associated with the Avengers than with anything else.

[danielsan52]

Every member except Dark Avengers, Captain Universe, Lion Heart, Ex Nihlo, Abyss, Nightmask, and Starbrand.

[DrNewGod]

I found Busiek's choice interesting in the Heroes Return relaunch:
Captain America
Hawkeye
Wasp
Captain (Monica) Marvel
Quasar
Justice

[Dreaded Porcupine]

Thor
Hulk
Ant-Man/Giant-Man
Wasp
Iron Man (The armor he is wearing in my avatar. His original)
Captain America

Captain America
Quicksilver
Scarlet Witch
Hawkeye

Vision
Black Panther
Yellow Jacket
Wasp
Goliath

[TheRay]

Despite not actually being a founding member a lot of these lists include Cap, so I think a good follow up question is who do you credit the most with being responsible for putting the team together and, thus, being the first Avenger? Is it Mister Anger or is it somebody else?