House of X & Powers of 10 discussion

[hawkeyefan]

Well, in short, when a TV starlet is realizing she is being left to die because her guardian has a copy of her, she naturally decides that herself dying and being copied isnt the same thing as her staying alive. This story treats such a situation as if no one would think that way when, really, everyone would.

Okay, gotcha.

I don’t think that any of the characters have acted like death isn’t a big deal. Quite the opposite, really. They were scared to die and did everything they could to avoid it. When Husk and Archangel died, they didn't just shrug. When Wolverine and Nightcrawler decided to make their sacrifice, they talk about the possibility that there wouldn’t be an afterlife.

[Silver Fang]

Okay, gotcha.

I don’t think that any of the characters have acted like death isn’t a big deal. Quite the opposite, really. They were scared to die and did everything they could to avoid it. When Husk and Archangel died, they didn't just shrug. When Wolverine and Nightcrawler decided to make their sacrifice, they talk about the possibility that there wouldn’t be an afterlife.

Even though they've both been to one. lol Wolverine has been to Hell and Kurt has been to Heaven. Sounds about right. lol But I guess Xavier didn't download those memories.

Then again, given new status quo, who knows how many past stories & arcs are still in canon.

[kevinism]

I guess readers really resonated with Scott/Jean/Logan pairing according to sales.

Pair means two lol

[Kitty&Piotr<3]

Okay, gotcha.

I don’t think that any of the characters have acted like death isn’t a big deal. Quite the opposite, really. They were scared to die and did everything they could to avoid it. When Husk and Archangel died, they didn't just shrug. When Wolverine and Nightcrawler decided to make their sacrifice, they talk about the possibility that there wouldn’t be an afterlife.

Would you want your loved ones creating a new you even when you couldn't help being dead?

Your experiences end either way, there would just be some other instance of existence that happens to act exactly like you did when you were alive.

[Tycon]

We already know the original soul goes back into the body, why do we have to keep talking in circles over hypotheticals that have no relevance to the book’s contents?

[numberthirty]

Without getting into that recent discussion of they "How?"/"Acceptable?" angle of the Five being able to bring mutants back, Mikhail Rasputin.

That fellow is a pretty interesting corner of the current lay of the land.

- Can they assume he has actually died?
- Is there a genetic sample of Mikhail out there?
- Is there an even remotely sane version of Mikhail that they could raise?

[Havok83]

Without getting into that recent discussion of they "How?"/"Acceptable?" angle of the Five being able to bring mutants back, Mikhail Rasputin.

That fellow is a pretty interesting corner of the current lay of the land.

- Can they assume he has actually died?
- Is there a genetic sample of Mikhail out there?
- Is there an even remotely sane version of Mikhail that they could raise?

He's been MIA for over a month so he'd be eligible to be brought back under the current criteria.
Sinister has a sample of every mutant
They have more insane and unstable mutants on Krakoa (Proteus, Selene, Emplate, etc...). I dont think he's among the worst

[jamesslow]

He's been MIA for over a month so he'd be eligible to be brought back under the current criteria.
Sinister has a sample of every mutant
They have more insane and unstable mutants on Krakoa (Proteus, Selene, Emplate, etc...). I dont think he's among the worst

There's the rub - how many mutants have been MIA but still alive well after a period of one month (or even years)? How is the resurrection protocol not going to sometimes inadvertently create clones of living mutants, with outdated memories and no soul? (This reminds me of Layla Miller and her power to bring back the dead albeit without their souls.)

[jamesslow]

Speaking of whom, I found this - a precursor to our Moira X?

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[JKtheMac]

Would you want your loved ones creating a new you even when you couldn't help being dead?

Your experiences end either way, there would just be some other instance of existence that happens to act exactly like you did when you were alive.

Here’s a thought. What if the reality we perceive is not in continuous time. What if time is sliced up and each slice obeys set rules based on the previous slice, like cellular automata.

In other words can you be positive that you are the same person you were 1 second ago. You may not be. We may be a continuing sequence of copies and in essence copying someone would be no different to allowing the fundamental laws of reality to copy us.

But, add the concept of a soul to the mix and that becomes the continuous aspect. The thing that defines us. I mean I don’t believe in souls so they don’t comfort me, but the MU specifically has souls and where that soul resides is what defines whether a person is ‘just a copy’ or the ‘real person’.

If there were no souls in the MU why would we care about copies? If like me you don’t believe in the soul why worry?

[Veitha]

Speaking of whom, I found this - a precursor to our Moira X?

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I was thinking about Layla too! She's got a 80 years worthof knowledge so she's probably welcome on Krakoa since Homo Novissima will happen further in the future.

[JB]

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The book we don’t deserve.

[Daedra]

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The book we don’t deserve.

What's important is that we do get it!

[tuck frump]

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The book we don’t deserve.

This is how Adam- the X-Treme can still win.

[JB]

This is how Adam- the X-Treme can still win.

First arc: Lifeguard’s return.