House of X & Powers of 10 discussion

[BroHomo]

Not my words. That was Charles Soule.

Yeah you're claiming he's more extreme....
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[PsychoEFrost]

Yeah you're claiming he's more extreme....
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What?

It's not questionable that MMX (Mags, Moira, Xavier) are doing far more extreme things than Utopia Cyclops did.

[Triniking1234]

anti-HiX-Men crowd is actually more oppressed than the gamers.

No matter the timeline, gamers never rise up.

RIP, gamers.

[Snoop Dogg]

No matter the timeline, gamers never rise up.

RIP, gamers.

even fortnite's pulling a SECRET WARS

we lose

WE ALWAYS LOSE

[coveredinbees]

Why did Hickman do it as two series?

[Snoop Dogg]

Why did Hickman do it as two series?

it was just for the artists
that's literally it

[Londo Bellian]

More work for artists, indeed. And more comics to buy as a result. Isn't that how it always works now?

[Killerbee911]

Why did Hickman do it as two series?

Pox set the overall stakes, Hox told the general story.

[Electricmastro]

"Marvel vs. X-Men"

Ah, like the old days.

[DurararaFTW]

What?

It's not questionable that MMX (Mags, Moira, Xavier) are doing far more extreme things than Utopia Cyclops did.

Why are Mags, Moira and Xavier singled out here. EVERYONE has given up on the dream at this point in time. Cyclops, Kitty, Jean, Storm, Wolverine, all of them. Everyone is manipulated by someone, but no one is outright mindcontrolled. They all have acknowledge the fact that they didn't feel that strongly that peaceful coexistence between humans and mutants is that important after all at the end of this. Even though Krakoa doesn't change the fact that new mutants are being born to human parents every day, making segregation cruel and unusual.

[your_name_here]

I’m considering having a reread soon but actually each series separate. I’m not too sure I would like PoX as a stand-alone. All the main “now” stuff happened in HoX.

[Londo Bellian]

Even though Krakoa doesn't change the fact that new mutants are being born to human parents every day, making segregation cruel and unusual.

There is also the opposite. One of Krakoa's laws commands its mutant citizens to make like rabbits to produce more mutants. But if mutant babies are randomly born to human parents, what if HUMAN babies are randomly born to Krakoan mutant citizens? What are the chances that the "Kill no man" law applies only to humans outside Krakoa, but humans born to Krakoans arc considered to have committed high treason for not being born mutant? Do they get fed to Krakoa like Creed or ceremonially.....? Or if they are diagnosed as human while still in utero then they get aborted?

[BroHomo]

They all have acknowledge the fact that they didn't feel that strongly that peaceful coexistence between humans and mutants is that important after all at the end of this.

A lot of posters seem to have space issues. How are they not peacefully coexisting? They're not attacking the humans are they? Do you consider your neighbors potential hostiles... How close should the mutants+humans be in order of the "dream" to be alive? Same Country? State? Damn...how about Same house? The same Organ?

Even though Krakoa doesn't change the fact that new mutants are being born to human parents every day, making segregation cruel and unusual.

What does mutant births gotta do with KraKoa "segregating" themselves

There is also the opposite. One of Krakoa's laws commands its mutant citizens to make like rabbits to produce more mutants. But if mutant babies are randomly born to human parents, what if HUMAN babies are randomly born to Krakoan mutant citizens? What are the chances that the "Kill no man" law applies only to humans outside Krakoa, but humans born to Krakoans arc considered to have committed high treason for not being born mutant? Do they get fed to Krakoa like Creed or ceremonially.....? Or if they are diagnosed as human while still in utero then they get aborted?

I meeeeean you gotta admit thats Is kiiiiiiiinda an odd logic leap.....from a law that say s "Kill No Man" "Be Bountiful" to Killing human babies.
1. Preeeeety they were talking bringing back their lost teammates
2. Theres not a lotta mutants being born anyway....I mean how many lil kids have the Xmen had over 60 years? Cable? Angle and Beaks birdlings?
3. I think theres been like ONE...ONE case of 2 mutants having a human kid
soooooooooo
I think the abortion clinics should wait on breaking ground lol

[CoCoBandz]

A lot of posters seem to have space issues. How are they not peacefully coexisting? They're not attacking the humans are they? Do you consider your neighbors potential hostiles... How close should the mutants+humans be in order of the "dream" to be alive? Same Country? State? Damn...how about Same house? The same Organ?
What does mutant births gotta do with KraKoa "segregating" themselves

Thank you.

They don't have to be all buddy-buddy to peacefully coexist. Just don't **** on each other lawn and everybody lives.

In light of recent events and just general mutant-human relations throughout MU history, I think they're well beyond
the possibly of kissess, hugs and hakuna matata.

[DurararaFTW]

A lot of posters seem to have space issues. How are they not peacefully coexisting? They're not attacking the humans are they? Do you consider your neighbors potential hostiles... How close should the mutants+humans be in order of the "dream" to be alive? Same Country? State? Damn...how about Same house? The same Organ?
What does mutant births gotta do with KraKoa "segregating" themselves

You generally want families to live together yes, we haven't evolved to the point that this is an alien concept just yet. But young mutants need a safe place to learn how to control their powers. This used to be a function the X-Men served. Krakoa however is clearly meant as a permanent residence for all mutants and sacrifices on the "safe" part of the original concept in order to make that happen. Mutant world-threatening villains are not just welcome, but were actively sought out to be part of it's governing structure. Even a non-mutant villain like Mr Sinister is given a place of authority just for having the scientific know-how to give himself an x-gene through unsavory means. Mutant/human shared households will continue to occur naturally and the X-Men used to fight against the sentiment that this is something to be discouraged, the X-franchise has been fairly consistent in portraying the violence the kind of thinking leads to. Krakoa sends a different message to the world. Cyclops' Utopia and Storm leading mutantkind to Limbo was a way of dealing with a specific situation. This is posed as the new way of doing in general, permanently. I know it won't be. But Cyclops and all the other X-Men that have believed in the dream even more Xavier himself before now do not. Yet they are onboard, one and all.