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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeeguy91 View Post
    You could, but the only place I'd see her is in an Iron Man movie. And since they don't seem to be making another one, would there be a reason to reboot her?
    Ironheart or a Disney+ show?

    Maybe even work in the Maggia into something.

    Be cool to give the MCU an overarching female baddie .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Ironheart or a Disney+ show?

    Maybe even work in the Maggia into something.

    Be cool to give the MCU an overarching female baddie .
    Now that they are doing a Hawkeye Disney Plus show, just have her be Kate Bishop's enemy. That's how it happened in Fraction's series.

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    Ultimo.

    He was used in the Iron man 2 videogame but the movie tie-in games have dubious ties to the MCU and should be taken with a grain of salt. Ultimo was also used in an MCU tie-in comic as he was made out of the left over Ultron from Sokovia, but that's still pretty much Ultimo in name only. He's still yet to make a proper appearance in the MCU as far as the films go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    Now that they are doing a Hawkeye Disney Plus show, just have her be Kate Bishop's enemy. That's how it happened in Fraction's series.
    Man, for some reason it just seems really difficult to just have Madame Masque be an Iron Man villain in adaptions .

    Aside from Armored Adventures she's either an Agent Carter villain or a Black Panther villain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Man, for some reason it just seems really difficult to just have Madame Masque be an Iron Man villain in adaptions .
    Well her big thing with Tony was that she was the Catwoman and Talia to his Bruce. And that worked for a long time because Tony was damaged enough and unable to keep a relationship with regular girls that Masque had an attraction for Tony. This is also the big reason why Bruce/Selina is a thing since both are characters who gave up on "normal" a long time ago and can't accommodate sane and reasonable people in their lives. But in the MCU, Tony and Pepper are soulmates basically. So you can't make that Masque thing work. And then they kinda did that in parts with Maya Hansen in Iron Man 3, so a big part of who she was is gone. Also RDJ's Tony is pushing 50 at this point and having Masque being a young villainess love-interest against him wouldn't fly in the Disney era. James Bond can do that because he's all European and dates Europeans but not Iron Man, mentor of Spider-Man.

    Masque has a cool dynamic with Kate Bishop and she felt really scary in the Fraction stories. Incidentally, Fraction used Masque in his Man Hunt storyline where Norman Osborn during Dark Reign takes over SHIELD, and in that Masque goes against Pepper's Rescue, and he had Pepper beat up Masque and hijack her costume to dress as her, and he later repeated that same beat in his Hawkeye series with Katie Kate doing that to her. So even Fraction wasn't really using Masque as a villain against Tony specifically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyssane View Post
    Serpent Society would be great for Falcon & Winter Soldier on Disney+

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    There are a few that pop into mind but they might be my essential Marvel villains as opposed to THE essential Marvel villains.

    Amora
    Gorr, God Butcher
    Mangog

    Modok
    Morgan Le Fay
    Nightmare
    Mephisto
    The Hood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    Well her big thing with Tony was that she was the Catwoman and Talia to his Bruce. And that worked for a long time because Tony was damaged enough and unable to keep a relationship with regular girls that Masque had an attraction for Tony. This is also the big reason why Bruce/Selina is a thing since both are characters who gave up on "normal" a long time ago and can't accommodate sane and reasonable people in their lives. But in the MCU, Tony and Pepper are soulmates basically. So you can't make that Masque thing work. And then they kinda did that in parts with Maya Hansen in Iron Man 3, so a big part of who she was is gone. Also RDJ's Tony is pushing 50 at this point and having Masque being a young villainess love-interest against him wouldn't fly in the Disney era. James Bond can do that because he's all European and dates Europeans but not Iron Man, mentor of Spider-Man.

    Masque has a cool dynamic with Kate Bishop and she felt really scary in the Fraction stories. Incidentally, Fraction used Masque in his Man Hunt storyline where Norman Osborn during Dark Reign takes over SHIELD, and in that Masque goes against Pepper's Rescue, and he had Pepper beat up Masque and hijack her costume to dress as her, and he later repeated that same beat in his Hawkeye series with Katie Kate doing that to her. So even Fraction wasn't really using Masque as a villain against Tony specifically.
    Masque with Kate always stuck me as a "sitcom nemesis" in some respects, not that she wasn't a big threat but her enmity with Kate never felt as meaningful as her relationship with Tony/Iron Man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    Well her big thing with Tony was that she was the Catwoman and Talia to his Bruce. And that worked for a long time because Tony was damaged enough and unable to keep a relationship with regular girls that Masque had an attraction for Tony. This is also the big reason why Bruce/Selina is a thing since both are characters who gave up on "normal" a long time ago and can't accommodate sane and reasonable people in their lives. But in the MCU, Tony and Pepper are soulmates basically. So you can't make that Masque thing work. And then they kinda did that in parts with Maya Hansen in Iron Man 3, so a big part of who she was is gone. Also RDJ's Tony is pushing 50 at this point and having Masque being a young villainess love-interest against him wouldn't fly in the Disney era. James Bond can do that because he's all European and dates Europeans but not Iron Man, mentor of Spider-Man.

    Masque has a cool dynamic with Kate Bishop and she felt really scary in the Fraction stories. Incidentally, Fraction used Masque in his Man Hunt storyline where Norman Osborn during Dark Reign takes over SHIELD, and in that Masque goes against Pepper's Rescue, and he had Pepper beat up Masque and hijack her costume to dress as her, and he later repeated that same beat in his Hawkeye series with Katie Kate doing that to her. So even Fraction wasn't really using Masque as a villain against Tony specifically.
    I'm going to have to disagree with you there. I couldn't stand to read the stories with Kate Bishop. She was treated too much Wiley Coyote, not CatWoman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    I'm going to have to disagree with you there. I couldn't stand to read the stories with Kate Bishop. She was treated too much Wiley Coyote, not CatWoman.
    Maybe. I mean obviously different strokes and whatnot. But Fraction's Hawkeye run, which I am sure will influence somewhat the upcoming Disney Plus series, did use her in a new way and story, and for a lot of people, Masque is a Kate Bishop villain especially since she goes to great lengths to try and kill her.

    She could also work as a Black Panther villain, since T'Challa is supposed to be in the MCU a kind of James Bond type character, and so on.

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    Ignore this post. Accidental repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    She could also work as a Black Panther villain, since T'Challa is supposed to be in the MCU a kind of James Bond type character, and so on.
    She was a major villain in the Black Panther's Quest series, but she still felt like an Iron Man villain even if they didn't treat her as one .

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    The MCU doesn't have Marvel Comics' current top villain, the Foreigner!
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    With MASTER OF KUNG-FU in the works. And just watching THE WINTER SOLDIER tonight. I couldn't help but think of the unexpected bonus of longtime Cap nemesis. Batroc The Leaper's appearance early on in the flick. He'd be perfect to show up in Shang-Chi's cinematic debut. Along with members of his Brigade of merry mercs. Machete. Zaran The Weapons Master, who started out as a Shang-Chi foe. Even the Swordsman.

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