The horny police should take some of the obsession with mutant bangin' and use it to make Champions more interesting.
The horny police should take some of the obsession with mutant bangin' and use it to make Champions more interesting.
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I find the anti-relationship stuff in general to be very interesting, and bangin' is just a part of that. The division of family and friends is the real meat of the burger, because a fundamental part of the franchise is finding refuge in a family and being part of something bigger through the dream and whatnot. But maybe it's because I'm a cave maggot living in total darkness.
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Did we get any REAL reason why Nate banned relationship & what it has to do with mutants?
Overall, I'm not keeping up with Disassembled & AoXM,but from what I can gather Nate's plan for world (or is it mutans or is it X men) seems all over the place.
AoXM is great & underrated but Nate's vision/what he really wants is what holding the series back IMO.
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I believe that AoXM has a lot to do with Nateīs own experiences, he was made by AoA Sinister to defeat Apocalypse using Jean and Scott genetic material, his natural growth was accelerated for this end so in a way heīs still too young emotionally speaking despite looking like an adult. In AoA Jean and Scott never were a couple so Nate is pretty aware that he was made to become a weapon or a kind of "savior" for his world, his main father figure was AoA Forge who he knew for some years before he was killed by Sinister. After AoA ended Nate was send to regular marvel universe he didnīt really find a particular place to call home or family, most ppl he knew thought of him as a way too powerful adolescent, or someone that could be used, he found refuge in becoming a Shaman/Healer and meditation to learn to use his powers.
So what we find in AoXM: test tube children, concepts like family or friendship being banned, he and the X-men as the "saviors/leaders of the world", isolation and individualism, AoXM is a reflection of Nateīs own personal experience and his vision of a "perfect world" for the X-men if Schism, AvX, or the Inhumans war was caused by tribal thinking in Nate eyes then the opposite is what the X-men need to learn to be able to live peacefully . Nate is dying and more powerful and instable than ever, he believes that his ban on personal, familiar and romantic relationships will lead the X-men into his way of thinking or so he thinks. On the other hand a society that supports isolation and individualism as a way of life are perfect tools to prevent people from rebelling.
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"To the X-men then, who donīt die the old fashioned way and no matter how hard we try, none of us die forever" Uncanny X-Men #270, Jean and Ororo
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Well,being a test tube baby should've made him value relationship more but I agree with the point isolation & individualism will prevent people from rebelling.
But in the diassembled, wasn't he trying to FIX the earth?But now that plot is gone.
He was also thought X men are wrong with the world, he was trying to kill them?Didn't he?And now he is one of the originals where'd that come from?
If it's really answered in the books,then I guess indeed I need to read the books.
The series isnīt done yet so I donīt think we will get Nateīs complete motivations until the end, but this issue had some insight about what heīs thinking:
"To the X-men then, who donīt die the old fashioned way and no matter how hard we try, none of us die forever" Uncanny X-Men #270, Jean and Ororo
Magneto: The master of magnetism Appreciation 2022
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But I think that's the point-Nate's plan is unstable and sort of insane. If we consider that this is all some plan of Xavier's, then Nate's world isn't meant to last. It's meant to put the X-Men into a certain mindset that makes all of them easier to control.
It isn't just the X-Men, but also villains like Omega Red and Apocalypse, each of whom seem to have been effected by this world.
Another thing to think about is just where would someone find a Life Seed? You typically get one off of a Celestrial, but if that happened in 616, it would likely have been noticed. We also don't see the Celestrials seeding many world's in the present.
So in my theory, Xavier would have used time travel to find the Life Seed. Thus, the current Celestrials don't notice and Xavier gets a Life Seed. And where else are we supposed to be seeing time travel? The upcoming House of X.
I disagree with the sentiment of it preventing rebellion as weve seen in every one of the minis, that in spite of attempts to supress love and companionship, it always finds a way to shine through thus leading to rebellion. Nate merely tries to hide these cracks by either having the people mindwiped or imprisoned. Its basically a stepford smiling society.
I like how some of the people here have summed up Nate's motivations, such as they are, as basically his reaction to a (very short) lifetime of trauma, compounded by the fact that even with all his power, there's nothing he can do about all the suffering in the world (his own and others') or that he's dying. Or to paraphrase Ben Reilly in the finale of Spider-Geddon, having reflected on his own trauma and the actions he took in reaction to that during The Clone Conspiracy, "But [he] emerged damaged. And damaged people damage others."
The spider is always on the hunt.
But Nate CAN change things for the better. He can change the minds of every bigot on Earth given enough time if not instantly, making them embrace mutants. He can disintegrate every single Sentinel. He CAN create a utopia using his own powers. He's insane, focusing on making his own little pretend world instead of making genuine change in the real world. He's afraid and hiding away from making real, lasting changes because of obvious mental instability and his traumas.
Originally Posted by The General, JLA #38