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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadH View Post
    My wife and I are Buttegeig fans. I saw him speak here back in July and was genuinely impressed with his calmly confident demeanor and thoughtful answers to peoples questions. I just wish he had more experience at the federal level. If he doesn't get the nom I'd really like to see him as someones VP pick.
    I think Warren can draw if she's not stuck with the rest of the pack. She's a true believer and it's palpable when she has a stage to herself and the freedom to share her opinions and ideas.
    This is something I've wondered about Buttigieg as a VP pick. Who would he be a good match for? Would Democrats be comfortable with a ticket with two white guys, or with two people who have husbands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    This is something I've wondered about Buttigieg as a VP pick. Who would he be a good match for? Would Democrats be comfortable with a ticket with two white guys, or with two people who have husbands?
    Yes. None of those are deal-breakers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    This is something I've wondered about Buttigieg as a VP pick. Who would he be a good match for? Would Democrats be comfortable with a ticket with two white guys, or with two people who have husbands?
    No, it's a well known fact that Democrats hate white people and marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    This is something I've wondered about Buttigieg as a VP pick. Who would he be a good match for? Would Democrats be comfortable with a ticket with two white guys, or with two people who have husbands?
    Quote Originally Posted by ChadH View Post
    Yes. None of those are deal-breakers.
    If that even makes the top five problems Democrats have going into the next general, they are in great shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCAll View Post
    No, it's a well known fact that Democrats hate white people and marriage.
    I don't think they hate either, but with their emphasis on the need for diversity, I'm not sure they want two white men on the ticket, and it might also be a little odd for someone seeking to be the first female President to have a gay running mate. Granted, Buttigieg's record of military service can appeal to voters who might be otherwise hesitant about voting for a gay candidate.

    Here, I'm trying to consider what Democratic operatives think will work best in a general election context.

    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    If that even makes the top five problems Democrats have going into the next general, they are in great shape.
    I suspect they'll go with someone else.

    The party has a decent bench, but they'll likely pick people who fit some kind of need for a candidate. Biden will probably pick someone who isn't a white guy who can be presented as a next generation leader. Because Warren's appeal is largely among feminists and educated white liberals, I suspect she would go with an African-American or Hispanic male running mate. I'm guessing Harris would go with a white guy from a red state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    See, I'd disagree with the assertion that this move seriously does that.

    It's just the move that they can frame as "Addressing This Issue..." without really messing with it's ability to make money.

    It kind of looks a little like presenting that argument without actually doing it.
    And I would disagree there. While you believe they're able to frame it as tackling the problem without actually doing something about it, thus presenting them as approaching the situation as passive at best, I look at it as Machiavellian to a degree. Also, from a profit standpoint, the average firearm (Walmart's online store will only sell those wimpy BB guns, but you can go to any physical store and get an authentic hunting rifle) retails between $150 and $300 at Walmart, while a brand new video game will cost $60 on average with season passes and additional content being sold separately via download code between $20 and $40. From a monetary standpoint, Walmart would rather sacrifice the video game sales than the firearm sales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    This is something I've wondered about Buttigieg as a VP pick. Who would he be a good match for? Would Democrats be comfortable with a ticket with two white guys, or with two people who have husbands?
    For a Republican, absolutely. But for a Democrat, unless one of them happens to be "out there" like Williamson or just a douche that right wing basement dwellers are jumping on like Yang (those are honestly the only two candidates I consider truly unsalvageable in this campaign, with Yang being the man I'm rooting especially to crash and burn), I fail to see the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck View Post
    The DSA has been spiraling for a while. Most of the founders have left the group over some of the new issues being put in their platform. (Support of BDS was the breaking point for most of the people who left, but yeah, that probably is real.)
    Thanks for the information, Tuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadH View Post
    I'm ok with him talking himself out of the nomination.
    As am I but I doubt he will. Frankly, I can't help but wonder if Biden is going senile. I'm not trying to be funny I'm worried about his mental state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCAll View Post
    No, it's a well known fact that Democrats hate white people and marriage.
    And guns, don't forget guns oh and god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogindy View Post
    For a Republican, absolutely. But for a Democrat, unless one of them happens to be "out there" like Williamson or just a douche that right wing basement dwellers are jumping on like Yang (those are honestly the only two candidates I consider truly unsalvageable in this campaign, with Yang being the man I'm rooting especially to crash and burn), I fail to see the issue.
    So you think Tulsi Gabbard is still a viable candidate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    So you think Tulsi Gabbard is still a viable candidate?
    Maybe he just forgot about her. I know I almost did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    So you think Tulsi Gabbard is still a viable candidate?
    I did like her takedown of Kamala Harris it was entertaining. But yeah, I doubt she is viable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    So you think Tulsi Gabbard is still a viable candidate?
    What's a Tulsi Gabbard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDogindy View Post
    What's a Tulsi Gabbard?
    The photogenic part Asian, part Native American veteran Millennial female Hindu.

    (Sorry, when complaints about old white men abound, it's a bit off how much people seem to dislike her.)


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