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    Quote Originally Posted by williamtheday View Post
    I think it was The Daily Beast that speculated Trump will dump Pence and have Ivanka as his running mate. If he's reelected, he might leave office pleading ill health. Ivanka becomes president and if daddy faces charges, she'll pardon him and the country still belongs to the Trumps. Sounds highly unlikely, but who knows?
    If Ivanka is anything at all like her dad she'll toss him under the bus for some good will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    Think. In the post - 9/11 days, there was a great deal of unity for a period of time and many people, myself included, felt you had to support the President. Everyone feared another attack was being planned. Just about everyone went along with the story about the WMDs
    I recall there was a lot of shaming going on as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    I wonder if that 2015 suspension from FOX News was because of the actual substance of her statement, or because she uttered the word, "shit."

    BTW, does she really have anywhere else to go? I mean, the only other place I've seen her since the Clueless TV series was one of the Sharknado sequels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    An interesting theory, and you could be right, even though I cling to the belief the only way Trump leaves the White House, regardless of he loses is if he's dragged out kicking and screaming by the Secret Service. No way he declines re-election, or gives up the presidency, and all the power that comes with it without one hell of a fight.
    If he were an actual politician that might be the case. I think he'd rather put some distance between himself and the level of accountability and scrutiny that goes with being the POTUS. Retire to Mar-a-lago, play golf, creep on women and sell his tweeting to the highest bidder. His time in the White House will open doors that would've stayed closed before and he can capitalize on whatever clout he may retain after leaving office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadH View Post
    If he were an actual politician that might be the case. I think he'd rather put some distance between himself and the level of accountability and scrutiny that goes with being the POTUS. Retire to Mar-a-lago, play golf, creep on women and sell his tweeting to the highest bidder. His time in the White House will open doors that would've stayed closed before and he can capitalize on whatever clout he may retain after leaving office.
    Only there is a good chance that, after leaving office, he'd be in a ton of legal trouble. if not at the Federal leave, then at the state level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Only there is a good chance that, after leaving office, he'd be in a ton of legal trouble. if not at the Federal leave, then at the state level.
    One can hope. I'd love to see him perp-walked down some courthouse steps in handcuffs.
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    Is Israel trying to take some of the heat off of Trump?

    - https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...py-rafi-peretz

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    Quote Originally Posted by aja_christopher View Post
    No -- you've seen statistics that prove that Obama deported more immigrants than Trump and written evidence that proves Trump is breaking the law with his policies while his administration denies children the right to soap, towels, and medical care.

    I also recall posting an article that showed that immigration processing speed had been increased under Obama and halved under Trump -- after you suggested it should be increased -- so stop lying about the "ad hominem" attacks when you just choose to avoid acknowledging facts when they are presented to you or try to spin them as you see fit.

    In return, all you've offered is an article by a writer who isn't even a Democratic congressperson nor has any power over actual legislature -- just some guy whose opinion you expect to override the actual deeds of both parties while in power.

    Just because you selectively ignore facts don't mean they don't exist and just because you refuse to admit the truth doesn't make it any less true.

    One thing is for certain though -- you are definitely from the party of Trump.

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    "Anatomy of a lie: where Trump’s fictitious “Open Borders Bill” comes from"

    "Lesser politicians merely exaggerate or spread fear about what the opposing party would do if they took power in Congress. President Donald Trump is inventing specific pieces of legislation.

    Trump’s now rallying supporters by warning them that if Democrats take back the Senate, they’ll pass a bill written by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) called the “Open Borders Bill.”

    No such bill actually exists.

    Here’s what Trump told a rally audience in Topeka, Kansas, on Saturday:

    Today’s Democrats have embraced radical socialism and open borders. If you don’t have borders, you don’t have a country, folks, you don’t have a country. Every single Democrat in the US Senate has signed up for the Open Borders — and it’s a bill! It’s called the Open Borders Bill! What’s going on? And it’s written by — guess who — Dianne Feinstein.

    Here is the part of Trump’s riff about Democrats that is correct: There is, in fact, a bill that Feinstein has written that every Democrat in the Senate has signed on to.

    It is, of course, not called the Open Borders Bill, because it’s not actually about opening the borders at all. It’s called the Keep Families Together Act; it was written in June, during the height of the family separation crisis at the US-Mexico border, to stop the administration’s “zero tolerance” policy of criminally prosecuting parents who crossed into the US illegally and sending their children into the care of the Department of Health and Human Services.

    Feinstein’s bill — probably by mistake — would have prevented parents from being arrested for serious crimes by the FBI, not just from getting separated at the border. But the good-faith critiques of the bill snowballed into an assertion on the right that Democrats were going to open the borders — and, furthermore, that that was the point..."

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    I've never claimed that Democrats have the courage to be open about support for unpopular views on immigration. My comments have been inspired by their consistent refusal to express limiting principles, or any upper limit on immigration.

    I got exposed to the idea from comments in an Ezra Klein podcast interview that I quoted last year.

    https://community.cbr.com/showthread...le#post4101370

    In addition to a failure to articulate a limiting principle problem, you can add consistent opposition to a border wall, consistent pushes for a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, and consistent opposition to most deportations of undocumented immigrants.

    A problem with focusing on introduced legislation is that it rewards politicians for hiding their views. It also neglects executive actions, like Obama's policy of curbing deportations from the interior states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    If we're going to grant asylum for people anywhere in the world who want decent jobs, that's likely to result in massive increases of something outside of our typical immigration system.
    I didn't just say "a decent job".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    I've never claimed that Democrats have the courage to be open about support for unpopular views on immigration. My comments have been inspired by their consistent refusal to express limiting principles, or any upper limit on immigration.
    Your comments are informed by your conservative biases -- nothing more, nothing less. You ignore any facts that counter said bias -- such as actual Democratic leadership and legislation -- and instead focus on finding articles that support your preconceptions about the "left". Whether you don't see that or are just pretending not to see it is debatable, but it's obvious to anyone who sees you accusing others of making "ad hominem" attacks when they are providing actual statistics and documentation that disproves your rhetoric.

    You spin Obama's actual record on immigration and deportation as you see fit and focus instead on "limiting principles" and "open borders" while ignoring your own party's illegal activities, family separation policies, and abuse of children at the border -- it's a transparently poor attempt to defend the indefensible at best.

    It basically comes down to: "I can't comment on the criminal and immoral behavior of the Republicans and their cruelty towards immigrants because I think the Democrats would be worse on immigration even though I have no factual evidence to prove it -- in fact, though all evidence shows the opposite to be true, I'd rather make assumptions about the Democrats based on my preconceived biases than accept the data at face value."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    Only there is a good chance that, after leaving office, he'd be in a ton of legal trouble. if not at the Federal leave, then at the state level.
    That’s the main reason why a lot of people, myself included, think that he’ll do absolutely everything in his power to stay in office for the rest of his life.

    I wonder how far the republicans would be willing to go with Trump. If he tries to cancel the 2020 election would they support that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    I've never claimed that Democrats have the courage to be open about support for unpopular views on immigration. My comments have been inspired by their consistent refusal to express limiting principles, or any upper limit on immigration.

    I got exposed to the idea from comments in an Ezra Klein podcast interview that I quoted last year.

    https://community.cbr.com/showthread...le#post4101370

    In addition to a failure to articulate a limiting principle problem, you can add consistent opposition to a border wall, consistent pushes for a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, and consistent opposition to most deportations of undocumented immigrants.

    A problem with focusing on introduced legislation is that it rewards politicians for hiding their views. It also neglects executive actions, like Obama's policy of curbing deportations from the interior states.
    This is what Democrats believe, they'll just never admit it; you know it's true, and nothing anyone says will ever convince you otherwise. There's no arguing with that. It just completely shuts down the discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCAll View Post
    It just completely shuts down the discussion.
    Which is the point, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman View Post
    That’s the main reason why a lot of people, myself included, think that he’ll do absolutely everything in his power to stay in office for the rest of his life.

    I wonder how far the republicans would be willing to go with Trump. If he tries to cancel the 2020 election would they support that?
    I’ve previously said that the ONE thing Trump fears more than anything on this planet, perhaps more than even losing his wealth is losing his freedom, and, judging from what came out in the Mueller Report, prison would all but be a certainty if he’s taken to court, and the presidency is the only thing potentially keeping him from the big house. As for the question of if Republicans would support Trump if he tried to cancel next year’s election, yeah, I think they would. The GOP as a whole is too far gone to be redeemed, drunk on power, greed, immortality, hate, the whole nine ugly and insane yards, so why not set fire to the Constitution and flush democracy as we know it down the toilet? Their shameful silence after Trump’s racist tweets yesterday showed Republicans have fully cast their lot with the Orange Menace and will die with him, and take the country to hell with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    I’ve previously said that the ONE thing Trump fears more than anything on this planet, perhaps more than even losing his wealth is losing his freedom, and, judging from what came out in the Mueller Report, prison would all but be a certainty if he’s taken to court, and the presidency is the only thing potentially keeping him from the big house. As for the question of if Republicans would support Trump if he tried to cancel next year’s election, yeah, I think they would. The GOP as a whole is too far gone to be redeemed, drunk on power, greed, immortality, hate, the whole nine ugly and insane yards, so why not set fire to the Constitution and flush democracy as we know it down the toilet? Their shameful silence after Trump’s racist tweets yesterday showed Republicans have fully cast their lot with the Orange Menace and will die with him, and take the country to hell with them.
    I don't want to be the Debbie downer. But he has nothing to worry about in my opinion. He is so popular amongst such a large segment of Republicans that the minute any Republicans get in power again (and the ones that have power now) will do everything they can to protect him. The entire party is afraid of him going after them and they are afraid of his supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    Think. In the post - 9/11 days, there was a great deal of unity for a period of time and many people, myself included, felt you had to support the President. Everyone feared another attack was being planned. Just about everyone went along with the story about the WMDs
    Okay... Thirty makes a good point here though. The Republicans supported the war without question the same as the Democrats. The same as most citizens (support for the war was at 70% at one point). Not to mention the media who was all for it.

    There were select few that were on the right side of history at the crucial moments of that war that didn't go with the politically popular position. I think that says something about them, and it says something about the ones who weren't

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