All Purpose News and Politics Thread Part IV: The Center Cannot Hold

[WestPhillyPunisher]

"Republicans Refuse to Criticise Trump's Racist Tweets"

"Donald Trump’s racist tweets urging Democratic congresswomen to “go back” to the countries they came from have provoked widespread outrage, but Republicans have refused to condemn the remarks.

Members of the president’s party have remained largely silent after the xenophobic remarks aimed at progressive congresswomen, presumed to be Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and Ayanna Pressley.

A spokesman for Mitch McConnell, the Senate’s majority leader, declined to comment on the remarks and representatives for GOP leaders in the House have also chosen not to respond to requests for comment."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9004821.html

I've maintained that McConnell doesn't give a **** what Trump says, as for the rest of those weasels, they're too damn gutless and afraid of Trump to do the right thing and condemn his vulgar comments. And by staying silent, they enable the orange bastard who's bound to say even more outrageous ****, safe and secure in the knowledge no one in his feckless, emasculated party will speak out against him.

[GindyPosts]

Who's being made to vote for Nazis?

However, in the 2018 elections, some state elections saw extremist candidates run for local office, notably in Illinois.

[worstblogever]

Who's being made to vote for Nazis?

Art Jones. Paul Nehlen. Russell Walker. Augustus Invictus. John Fitzgerald. Taylor Rose.

These are some GOP candidates from 2018 you've conveniently forgotten about, all of whom openly denied the Holocaust or were straight up Nazis or Neo-Nazis.

The first step to getting the Nazis out of your party is acknowledging they're clearly there. The fact that the Trump 2020 campaign has the Proud Boys running through the towns they're in looking for "liberals" to fight, and it's not even denied that they're there as part of the event should also be a pretty big f***ing red flag, Mets.

[worstblogever]

On this date in 2014, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” published a profile on Christine O’Donnell, the former U.S. Senate candidate from Delaware who assured us all that SHE WAS NOT A WITCH. As if that isn’t enough of an explanation of her wackiness, we’ll remind everyone that she also seemed to be unable to explain any amendments of the Constitution after the Second, and her understanding of the First Amendment seemed to indicate she didn’t grasp that it also included a separation of church and state. The fact that she was anti-masturbation, and chalked up several campaign finance investigations added to her wide swath of dumbassery. She was, quite possibly, the most embarrassing candidate for Senate the Republicans have mustered in the past decade, and that’s saying something.

In 2015, 2016, 2017, as well as 2018, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” published profiles of the now former U.S. House Representative from North Carolina’s 9th District, Robert Pittenger, who first won election in 2012, and has gone on to be one of the worst commenters on LGBTQ rights in Congress. In September of 2014, Pittenger discussed ENDA, and compared businesses having the ability to fire workers for their sexual orientation to also having the freedom to establish bans on smoking in the workplace. A month later, Pittenger was fretting over the threat of Ebola and calling for a travel ban to Africa (which experts only said would help spread the disease). In 2016, Pittinger discussed protesters in Charlotte upset about the police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott, and dismissed them by saying they just "hate white people because white people are successful and they're not", which is a nice blended cocktail of racism and insensitivity. In February of 2015, Pittenger also teased some Godwin’s Law potential when he gave his opinion on negotiations with Iran over their nuclear program, comparing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to Winston Churchill, and President Obama to Neville Chamberlain. Within a few more months, he went full-on Godwin’s Law, and declared Iran to be “Hitler with nuclera arms”, which is amazing because partly in thanks to a nuclear treaty that Pittinger himself opposed, Iran wasn’t planning on having any. At a July 2015 prayer rally featuring such CSGOPOTD luminaries as Louis Gohmert, Dave Daubenmire, Trent Franks, and E.W. Jackson, Pittenger declared that his “primary mission in Congress is to be an Emissary of Christ”, which probably means he’s not too keen on that whole separation of church and state thing we’ve got. Other than that, Pittenger has had a conservative record that is one of the hardest to the right in all of Congress, including a vote for the 2013 Government Shutdown, attempts to ban abortion at 20 weeks without rape or incest exceptions, and an attempt at defunding Planned Parenthood that saw him take to the floor of the house to claim they profit from the “sale of little baby body parts”. Which were the key words that are believed to have served as a stochastic terror trigger to make Robert Lewis Dear snap and shoot up a Planned Parenthood clinic few months later. In his final term in Congress, Pittenger straight-up lied about the GOP’s new healthcare plans that would allow insurance companies to refuse to cover pre-existing conditions at the state level, justifying that because “People can go to the state that they want to live in. States have all kinds of different policies and there are disparities among states for many things: driving restrictions, alcohol, whatever. We’re putting choices back in the hands of the states.” See? It’s easy… just pack up and move to whatever state is left to provide you with good healthcare. He also praised Donald Trump and derided the media, even only days after Donald Trump, Jr. posted proof he colluded with Russians on Twitter, writing “It’s “just another story in the media’s neurotic, weekly tabloid obsession of Trump-Russian collusion.” Robert Pittenger, however, will no longer darken the doors of Congress, ironically being beaten in a tainted election by fellow Republican Mark Harris. As such, we’re going to retire his profile at this time, and go ahead and take a look at a different kooky Republican today instead. (Current crazy/stupid scoreboard, is now 766-40, since this was established in July 2014.)


Stacey Dash

Welcome to the 766th original “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” profile, where today we’ll be discussing Stacey Dash, who you may remember as “that actress who was the best friend in the movie Clueless”, a minor bit of fame which Dash used to get on Fox News as their main guest pundit to kick the discussion to when they want to have a discussion on race and have someone willing to sell out their own.

And, we’re lucky enough to not have to watch every minute of her appearances as a pundit, but Media Matters did a great job of summing them up after Dash announced her intention to run for Congress in 2018:

• Dash said that the Democratic Party has a “plantation mentality” while on Hannity in 2014. In 2016, she repeated the same ludicrous statement on The O'Reilly Factor nearly two years later, adding that this “mentality” kept African-Americans “on entitlements.”
• In 2014, Stacey Dash also that government assistance is the “Democratic Party’s new version of slavery.”
• In 2015, Dash, without any evidence or logic to why…attributed a rise in divorce rates to women not knowing “how to take care of their men.”
• In 2015, while discussing a rise in sexual assault on college campuses, Dash intimated that some sexual assaults are the result of “bad girls … who like to be naughty.”
• During a 2015 discussion about the gender pay-gap in Hollywood, Dash blamed the women, saying they needed to “be better negotiators.” In a separate segment, she said actresses facing pay discrimination should “be grateful” for opportunities to star alongside famous men.
• In 2015, Dash was briefly suspended from Fox News after she suggested that President Barack Obama didn’t “give a ****” about terrorism.
• In 2016, when #OscarsSoWhite was trending on Twitter, Dash hopped onto Fox News to respond to that that “either we want to have segregation or integration” and claiming that “there is no need” for the NAACP or BET Awards. She also said that “there shouldn’t be a black history month” because there isn’t a white history month. Only hours later, she repeated this statement on another show.

So as we said, Stacey Dash used her Fox News fame to run for U.S. House of Representatives in California’s 44th Congressional District. Even with that high profile, it is a very blue district, and most predicted she was only doing it to be a troll and stay relevant for another few years. That seems accurate, because Dash actually finished fourth in the primary, not even coming close to qualifying for the general election with only 7% of the vote. To put that in even more perspective, Jazmina Saavedra, who we profiled earlier this month, got 10% of the vote.

We’ll just say that Stacey Dash’s fifteen minutes of fame should have run out at least a decade ago. And that she’s probably not going to be invited to a Clueless reunion, in spite of embodying the title more than anyone should have any right to be.

[aja_christopher]

The Clinton and Obama administrations dealt with different issues, and it's also not necessarily an indication that this is how they would govern now.

Yet it's a far better indicator of how they would behave in the present than trying to promote some "open borders" nonsense that you read by some writer -- you know this, yet you still continue to dodge facts and instead lean on biased assumption instead of actually judging the Democrats on their record.

Conversely, you refuse to judge the Republicans on their record by arguing that you can't do so because you don't know how Democrats would govern, despite having two solid examples in both Clinton and Obama, the latter of whom was known more for deportations than for "open borders"

It's a ridiculous argument and frankly it's insulting that you try to keep promoting it, but it's par for course given the Republican penchant for ignoring both racism and corruption in their own party -- when they aren't actively supporting it by honoring KKK members and protecting presidents who criminally obstruct justice and actively seek to work with foreign governments to subvert American democracy.

Shocking. They are GOP villains now anyway. Fox News will just laugh it off and say the left is "over blowing" the tweet. Brush the racism aside, easy to do when there are no consequences from the GOP voters and the base agrees with the racism.

This is what Mets doesn't want to address directly -- the "open borders" talk is just a smoke screen for his party's real agenda, whether he will admit it or not.

Even when the facts are right in front of them with regards to deportations, immigration policy, and criminal behavior, they will ignore them to promote said agenda.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

On this date in 2014, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” published a profile on Christine O’Donnell, the former U.S. Senate candidate from Delaware who assured us all that SHE WAS NOT A WITCH. As if that isn’t enough of an explanation of her wackiness, we’ll remind everyone that she also seemed to be unable to explain any amendments of the Constitution after the Second, and her understanding of the First Amendment seemed to indicate she didn’t grasp that it also included a separation of church and state. The fact that she was anti-masturbation, and chalked up several campaign finance investigations added to her wide swath of dumbassery. She was, quite possibly, the most embarrassing candidate for Senate the Republicans have mustered in the past decade, and that’s saying something.

In 2015, 2016, 2017, as well as 2018, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” published profiles of the now former U.S. House Representative from North Carolina’s 9th District, Robert Pittenger, who first won election in 2012, and has gone on to be one of the worst commenters on LGBTQ rights in Congress. In September of 2014, Pittenger discussed ENDA, and compared businesses having the ability to fire workers for their sexual orientation to also having the freedom to establish bans on smoking in the workplace. A month later, Pittenger was fretting over the threat of Ebola and calling for a travel ban to Africa (which experts only said would help spread the disease). In 2016, Pittinger discussed protesters in Charlotte upset about the police shooting of Keith Lamont Scott, and dismissed them by saying they just "hate white people because white people are successful and they're not", which is a nice blended cocktail of racism and insensitivity. In February of 2015, Pittenger also teased some Godwin’s Law potential when he gave his opinion on negotiations with Iran over their nuclear program, comparing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to Winston Churchill, and President Obama to Neville Chamberlain. Within a few more months, he went full-on Godwin’s Law, and declared Iran to be “Hitler with nuclera arms”, which is amazing because partly in thanks to a nuclear treaty that Pittinger himself opposed, Iran wasn’t planning on having any. At a July 2015 prayer rally featuring such CSGOPOTD luminaries as Louis Gohmert, Dave Daubenmire, Trent Franks, and E.W. Jackson, Pittenger declared that his “primary mission in Congress is to be an Emissary of Christ”, which probably means he’s not too keen on that whole separation of church and state thing we’ve got. Other than that, Pittenger has had a conservative record that is one of the hardest to the right in all of Congress, including a vote for the 2013 Government Shutdown, attempts to ban abortion at 20 weeks without rape or incest exceptions, and an attempt at defunding Planned Parenthood that saw him take to the floor of the house to claim they profit from the “sale of little baby body parts”. Which were the key words that are believed to have served as a stochastic terror trigger to make Robert Lewis Dear snap and shoot up a Planned Parenthood clinic few months later. In his final term in Congress, Pittenger straight-up lied about the GOP’s new healthcare plans that would allow insurance companies to refuse to cover pre-existing conditions at the state level, justifying that because “People can go to the state that they want to live in. States have all kinds of different policies and there are disparities among states for many things: driving restrictions, alcohol, whatever. We’re putting choices back in the hands of the states.” See? It’s easy… just pack up and move to whatever state is left to provide you with good healthcare. He also praised Donald Trump and derided the media, even only days after Donald Trump, Jr. posted proof he colluded with Russians on Twitter, writing “It’s “just another story in the media’s neurotic, weekly tabloid obsession of Trump-Russian collusion.” Robert Pittenger, however, will no longer darken the doors of Congress, ironically being beaten in a tainted election by fellow Republican Mark Harris. As such, we’re going to retire his profile at this time, and go ahead and take a look at a different kooky Republican today instead. (Current crazy/stupid scoreboard, is now 766-40, since this was established in July 2014.)


Stacey Dash

Welcome to the 766th original “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” profile, where today we’ll be discussing Stacey Dash, who you may remember as “that actress who was the best friend in the movie Clueless”, a minor bit of fame which Dash used to get on Fox News as their main guest pundit to kick the discussion to when they want to have a discussion on race and have someone willing to sell out their own.

And, we’re lucky enough to not have to watch every minute of her appearances as a pundit, but Media Matters did a great job of summing them up after Dash announced her intention to run for Congress in 2018:

• Dash said that the Democratic Party has a “plantation mentality” while on Hannity in 2014. In 2016, she repeated the same ludicrous statement on The O'Reilly Factor nearly two years later, adding that this “mentality” kept African-Americans “on entitlements.”
• In 2014, Stacey Dash also that government assistance is the “Democratic Party’s new version of slavery.”
• In 2015, Dash, without any evidence or logic to why…attributed a rise in divorce rates to women not knowing “how to take care of their men.”
• In 2015, while discussing a rise in sexual assault on college campuses, Dash intimated that some sexual assaults are the result of “bad girls … who like to be naughty.”
• During a 2015 discussion about the gender pay-gap in Hollywood, Dash blamed the women, saying they needed to “be better negotiators.” In a separate segment, she said actresses facing pay discrimination should “be grateful” for opportunities to star alongside famous men.
• In 2015, Dash was briefly suspended from Fox News after she suggested that President Barack Obama didn’t “give a ****” about terrorism.
• In 2016, when #OscarsSoWhite was trending on Twitter, Dash hopped onto Fox News to respond to that that “either we want to have segregation or integration” and claiming that “there is no need” for the NAACP or BET Awards. She also said that “there shouldn’t be a black history month” because there isn’t a white history month. Only hours later, she repeated this statement on another show.

So as we said, Stacey Dash used her Fox News fame to run for U.S. House of Representatives in California’s 44th Congressional District. Even with that high profile, it is a very blue district, and most predicted she was only doing it to be a troll and stay relevant for another few years. That seems accurate, because Dash actually finished fourth in the primary, not even coming close to qualifying for the general election with only 7% of the vote. To put that in even more perspective, Jazmina Saavedra, who we profiled earlier this month, got 10% of the vote.

We’ll just say that Stacey Dash’s fifteen minutes of fame should have run out at least a decade ago. And that she’s probably not going to be invited to a Clueless reunion, in spite of embodying the title more than anyone should have any right to be.

Along with Diamond and Silk (or, as I call them, Cut Glass and Burlap), I absolute DESPISE scum like Dash who willingly, if not maliciously sell out their race just so they can suck up to conservatives and right wing cretins on Faux News. And Dash is twice as reprehensible because she not only **** on her race, but her gender as well. I can't imagine that troll has friends ANYWHERE in Hollywood after her deplorable antics over the years, and for what? To get a pat on her coiffured head by Sean Hamhocks or an "Atta girl!" from the troglodytes on Fox & Fiends? Talk about piss poor career choices.

[Jack Dracula]

My mom is, and my dad's parents were. What immigration policies does this obligate me to support?

It doesn't obligate you to support any specific policy.
Good character in general would dictate you to feel a degree of empathy for the immigrants plight. In that regard your profession as a teacher may dictate you should feel the same for the children involved.
It seems that your worries over open borders and vauge notions of "limiting principles" are enough to overcome that.

Well, of course he did. Grouchy Graham has to keep on kissing Trump's orange ass if he hopes to land a position in his cabinet of horrors one day.

Think bigger. Graham's going to shoot for the White House in 2020.
Trump will continue to pander to his base in order to keep hem involved, but when it comes time he'll decline re-election and endorse whoever has managed to stay in his good graces.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Think bigger. Graham's going to shoot for the White House in 2020.
Trump will continue to pander to his base in order to keep hem involved, but when it comes time he'll decline re-election and endorse whoever has managed to stay in his good graces.

An interesting theory, and you could be right, even though I cling to the belief the only way Trump leaves the White House, regardless of he loses is if he's dragged out kicking and screaming by the Secret Service. No way he declines re-election, or gives up the presidency, and all the power that comes with it without one hell of a fight.

Meanwhile, just got an alert that the shitstain who murdered Heather Heyer in Charlottesvile in 2017 got life plus 419 years for his actions. To that I say....GOOD! The only way he leaves prison is in a box, hell, unless he's put in solitary, that turd may not last 419 DAYS.

[Gray Lensman]

An interesting theory, and you could be right, even though I cling to the belief the only way Trump leaves the White House, regardless of he loses is if he's dragged out kicking and screaming by the Secret Service. No way he declines re-election, or gives up the presidency, and all the power that comes with it without one hell of a fight.

Meanwhile, just got an alert that the shitstain who murdered Heather Heyer in Charlottesvile in 2017 got life plus 419 years for his actions. To that I say....GOOD! The only way he leaves prison is in a box, hell, unless he's put in solitary, that turd may not last 419 DAYS.

Trump might toss Pence out for his reelection campaign. Graham might be angling for that and a run of his own in 2024, especially if Trump and McQuisling manage to complete their desired transformation of the American political system into a competitive autocracy.

[Mister Mets]

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Right. Prove my point by using whataboutism to highlight a sexual deviant and a dipshit.

You do know it's going to be a cold day in hell before you summon the courage to say anything negative about the Grand Ole Party, right?

Democrats could have continued to call on Northam and Fairfax to resign. They chose not to when there were political consequences, which suggests a willingness to push people under the bus only when it doesn't cost the party anything.

However, in the 2018 elections, some state elections saw extremist candidates run for local office, notably in Illinois.

Arthur Jones won a primary no one wanted, because they correctly figured the Democratic incumbent was pretty much unbeatable in what was looking like a good year for Democrats.

Yet it's a far better indicator of how they would behave in the present than trying to promote some "open borders" nonsense that you read by some writer -- you know this, yet you still continue to dodge facts and instead lean on biased assumption instead of actually judging the Democrats on their record.

Conversely, you refuse to judge the Republicans on their record by arguing that you can't do so because you don't know how Democrats would govern, despite having two solid examples in both Clinton and Obama, the latter of whom was known more for deportations than for "open borders"

It's a ridiculous argument and frankly it's insulting that you try to keep promoting it, but it's par for course given the Republican penchant for ignoring both racism and corruption in their own party -- when they aren't actively supporting it by honoring KKK members and protecting presidents who criminally obstruct justice and actively seek to work with foreign governments to subvert American democracy.



This is what Mets doesn't want to address directly -- the "open borders" talk is just a smoke screen for his party's real agenda, whether he will admit it or not.

Even when the facts are right in front of them with regards to deportations, immigration policy, and criminal behavior, they will ignore them to promote said agenda.

I'll note Sullivan's argument came after mine, although he articulated it pretty well. If you disagree with his conclusions, you can articulate why, but all I've seen so far are ad hominem attacks.

The idea that elected Democrats are unable to articulate a limiting principle on immigration isn't limited to Sullivan.

A problem with focusing exclusively on past policies is that these can change. It is generally understood that liberals are getting more radical on immigration. Obama's increase in deportations was also mainly because he kept a change in processing of people caught near the border that started towards the end of the George W Bush administration.

Granted, Democrat's actions on immigration include sanctuary city policies, and efforts to undermine ICE, so we do get a sense that they'll mostly push for making things easier for people trying to get into the country outside of regular means.

As for the idea that we all know what Democrats want to do, we don't know what they'd do if given the opportunity, since they're not articulating clear limits on how many people should be allowed to come to the country per year. Do they want an increase of ten percent? 200 percent? We really don't know.

It doesn't obligate you to support any specific policy.
Good character in general would dictate you to feel a degree of empathy for the immigrants plight. In that regard your profession as a teacher may dictate you should feel the same for the children involved.
It seems that your worries over open borders and vauge notions of "limiting principles" are enough to overcome that.


Think bigger. Graham's going to shoot for the White House in 2020.
Trump will continue to pander to his base in order to keep hem involved, but when it comes time he'll decline re-election and endorse whoever has managed to stay in his good graces.

Empathy doesn't require giving people incentives to bring children through Mexico.

It's also unrelated to the question of figuring out what Democrats actually want.

[GindyPosts]

Democrats could have continued to call on Northam and Fairfax to resign. They chose not to when there were political consequences, which suggests a willingness to push people under the bus only when it doesn't cost the party anything.

In all honesty, it's simply because both of them want to keep in power, as Virginia limits governorship to one-term, and those assholes have chosen to be stubborn about it rather than take the path of least resistance and step down, and then once it became a non-issue on the national scene, the furor unfortunately died down and they got to walk away unscathed since the heat was no longer on them. Frankly, if the parties were reversed, you likely wouldn't have heard much of a peep when things had gone on, and you would most definitely be grumbling about another Democratic example since God forbid you let slip any ill words of the other side.

Arthur Jones won a primary no one wanted, because they correctly figured the Democratic incumbent was pretty much unbeatable in what was looking like a good year for Democrats.

A Nazi is still a Nazi. And people still voted for him regardless of the fact it was a losing effort.

You know; why do we put up with you, sometimes? We've dealt with the JBatmen and the other palookas who represent the worst of the conservative aisle, but for someone who likes to champion himself as an intellect, you keep deflecting topics and changing subjects rather than admit that your party has flawed fundamentals. Of course Democrats have corrupt people. Of course Democrats have assholes. We know that. We'd just like for you to admit it without going "well, the other party...".

Just, say it. There are corrupt and incompetent Republicans.

[Mister Mets]

In all honesty, it's simply because both of them want to keep in power, as Virginia limits governorship to one-term, and those assholes have chosen to be stubborn about it rather than take the path of least resistance and step down, and then once it became a non-issue on the national scene, the furor unfortunately died down and they got to walk away unscathed since the heat was no longer on them. Frankly, if the parties were reversed, you likely wouldn't have heard much of a peep when things had gone on, and you would most definitely be grumbling about another Democratic example since God forbid you let slip any ill words of the other side.



A Nazi is still a Nazi. And people still voted for him regardless of the fact it was a losing effort.

You know; why do we put up with you, sometimes? We've dealt with the JBatmen and the other palookas who represent the worst of the conservative aisle, but for someone who likes to champion himself as an intellect, you keep deflecting topics and changing subjects rather than admit that your party has flawed fundamentals. Of course Democrats have corrupt people. Of course Democrats have assholes. We know that. We'd just like for you to admit it without going "well, the other party...".

Just, say it. There are corrupt and incompetent Republicans.

There are corrupt and incompetent Republicans.

I've said similar stuff numerous times. For example, I argued that WBE should've realized with tens of thousands of potential candidates to choose from, he'd be able to keep the Crazy/ Stupid Republican of the day thing running indefinitely.

https://community.cbr.com/showthread...l=1#post485809

Hell, I'm still planning to vote for your party's presidential frontrunner over mine.

I commented on the Arthur Jones stuff at the time he got a congressional nomination. My argument was never about whether Arthur Jones is worthy of anyone's vote (he wasn't) but about whether Republicans were obligated to waste resources getting someone else a doomed nomination, and whether parties should have more mechanisms to boot out weirdos who win nominations.

https://community.cbr.com/showthread...=1#post3540684

On the Virginia mess, Democrats got quieter when it seemed that there was a legitimate chance the fourth in line (a Republican legislative leader) might get to be Governor. That enabled Northam and Fairfax to hold on.

[numberthirty]

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Let's not forget Republicans looking the other way and letting Dubya launch a war in Iraq on phony intelligence that Saddam Hussein had WMD's, a conflict that needlessly cost the lives of our brave servicemen and servicewomen and maimed scores more.

If that is what all of the Republicans who voted for it were doing, how would you characterize the actions of all of the Democrats who voted for launching that war?

[Iron Maiden]

If that is what all of the Republicans who voted for it were doing, how would you characterize the actions of all of the Democrats who voted for launching that war?

Think. In the post - 9/11 days, there was a great deal of unity for a period of time and many people, myself included, felt you had to support the President. Everyone feared another attack was being planned. Just about everyone went along with the story about the WMDs

[aja_christopher]

I'll note Sullivan's argument came after mine, although he articulated it pretty well. If you disagree with his conclusions, you can articulate why, but all I've seen so far are ad hominem attacks.

No -- you've seen statistics that prove that Obama deported more immigrants than Trump and written evidence that proves Trump is breaking the law with his policies while his administration denies children the right to soap, towels, and medical care.

I also recall posting an article that showed that immigration processing speed had been increased under Obama and halved under Trump -- after you suggested it should be increased -- so stop lying about the "ad hominem" attacks when you just choose to avoid acknowledging facts when they are presented to you or try to spin them as you see fit.

In return, all you've offered is an article by a writer who isn't even a Democratic congressperson nor has any power over actual legislature -- just some guy whose opinion you expect to override the actual deeds of both parties while in power.

Just because you selectively ignore facts don't mean they don't exist and just because you refuse to admit the truth doesn't make it any less true.

One thing is for certain though -- you are definitely from the party of Trump.

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"Anatomy of a lie: where Trump’s fictitious “Open Borders Bill” comes from"

"Lesser politicians merely exaggerate or spread fear about what the opposing party would do if they took power in Congress. President Donald Trump is inventing specific pieces of legislation.

Trump’s now rallying supporters by warning them that if Democrats take back the Senate, they’ll pass a bill written by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) called the “Open Borders Bill.”

No such bill actually exists.

Here’s what Trump told a rally audience in Topeka, Kansas, on Saturday:

Today’s Democrats have embraced radical socialism and open borders. If you don’t have borders, you don’t have a country, folks, you don’t have a country. Every single Democrat in the US Senate has signed up for the Open Borders — and it’s a bill! It’s called the Open Borders Bill! What’s going on? And it’s written by — guess who — Dianne Feinstein.

Here is the part of Trump’s riff about Democrats that is correct: There is, in fact, a bill that Feinstein has written that every Democrat in the Senate has signed on to.

It is, of course, not called the Open Borders Bill, because it’s not actually about opening the borders at all. It’s called the Keep Families Together Act; it was written in June, during the height of the family separation crisis at the US-Mexico border, to stop the administration’s “zero tolerance” policy of criminally prosecuting parents who crossed into the US illegally and sending their children into the care of the Department of Health and Human Services.

Feinstein’s bill — probably by mistake — would have prevented parents from being arrested for serious crimes by the FBI, not just from getting separated at the border. But the good-faith critiques of the bill snowballed into an assertion on the right that Democrats were going to open the borders — and, furthermore, that that was the point..."

https://www.vox.com/2018/10/8/179514...stein-democrat