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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Newsom is spot on right about this being a vendetta. Remember, Trump lost California to Hillary in 2016, something I’m sure he hasn’t forgotten and is out to screw over the state by any means necessary.
    but STATES RIGHTS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    And not one word about increasing infant mortality, which you were saying an unstated increase would result in less deaths than the abortion rates before the Trump administration without anything to back it up. It seems I was right that you hadn't considered that before my post, and that you consider to ignore it.

    Rural hospitals are closing at increasing rates, and despite the top healthcare costs on the planet the quality is still going down compared to many other first world countries. Then you factor in the efforts to throw millions of Americans off of their insurance and that results in more deaths of babies as well as people of every age.
    From the perspective of many people who are pro-life, there isn't much of a difference between an abortion and the death of an infant. I'm not saying this is the correct way of looking at things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    From the perspective of someone who is pro-life, there isn't much of a difference between an abortion and the death of an infant. I'm not saying this is the correct way of looking at things.
    I'm confused, is this your perspective that you are saying isn't correct? Could you make your perspective clear if that isn't the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    From the perspective of many people who are pro-life, there isn't much of a difference between an abortion and the death of an infant. I'm not saying this is the correct way of looking at things.
    Would you like to explain how Republicans are experts on being pro-life as the party all defends Trump sending immigrant kids who need to stay here for medical treatment off to their home countries to die?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    I'm confused, is this your perspective that you are saying isn't correct? Could you make your perspective clear if that isn't the case.
    The chain of posts started with a discussion about the overall views of the Republican party and typical voters, who are probably a bit more anti-abortion than I am. The question was about what Republicans believe, rather than what policies I, as an individual, would prefer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    Would you like to explain how Republicans are experts on being pro-life as the party all defends Trump sending immigrant kids who need to stay here for medical treatment off to their home countries to die?
    That approach is more realpolitik than pro-life, to be honest.

    What specifically articulated immigration policy are you advocating for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    That approach is more realpolitik than pro-life, to be honest.

    What specifically articulated immigration policy are you advocating for?
    The ''Pro-Life'' movement treats kids like they are comic books, they are only worth something in their original wrappings.

    When the Pro-Life movement seems to be totally indifferent to kids when they are outside the womb, it's pretty easy to see them in a cynical light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    That approach is more realpolitik than pro-life, to be honest.

    What specifically articulated immigration policy are you advocating for?
    Not putting children in cages to start with. I can't believe that has to be debated. But let's side step, 1,2,3....
    There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    The chain of posts started with a discussion about the overall views of the Republican party and typical voters, who are probably a bit more anti-abortion than I am. The question was about what Republicans believe, rather than what policies I, as an individual, would prefer.
    Whatever it started as, I asked what your personal perspective was in this case. E: To clarify, this case being whether the decrease in Abortions brought about by the Trump Administration is worth the loss of healthcare provided by Planned parenthood and the push to uninsure many millions of Americans and the deaths which it will cause or contribute to.
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    In first post elections speech Netanyahu refuses to concede. blames the media for biased coverage.

    This is very eerie because we know this is exactly what Trump will do if he loses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    Not putting children in cages to start with. I can't believe that has to be debated. But let's side step, 1,2,3....
    And not murdering them by stripping them of ongoing medical treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Overlord View Post
    The ''Pro-Life'' movement treats kids like they are comic books, they are only worth something in their original wrappings.

    When the Pro-Life movement seems to be totally indifferent to kids when they are outside the womb, it's pretty easy to see them in a cynical light.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/co...-in-patriarchy
    That is a great way of putting it. Bravo!

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    I don't think we need a detailed immigration policy to someone's satisfaction just for saying that we think murdering people through the current one is bad. There are several good versions of progressive immigration reform out there, none of which include the magic phrase nor are in fact 'open borders', to which are probably better than the current system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman View Post
    In first post elections speech Netanyahu refuses to concede. blames the media for biased coverage.

    This is very eerie because we know this is exactly what Trump will do if he loses.
    Yeah, but with ten times more controversy and madness. Maybe this is hyperbole, but I could imagine Trump refusing to leave the White House if he loses, barricades himself inside the Oval Office and has to be physically removed from the building by the Secret Service with the entire world watching.

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    Donald Trump Sparks Anger With ‘Crass’ Comments About Cokie Roberts

    “I never met her. She never treated me nicely. But I would like to wish her family well. She was a professional and I respect professionals...Never treated me well, but I certainly respect her as a professional.”
    Just when you thought Trump couldn't possibly sink any lower, he finds new depths to plumb. But wait, there's more....

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    Trump Says Homeless Californians Are Ruining Cities’ ‘Prestige’

    The president, who seemed unconcerned about homeless people themselves, said “we’ll be doing something about it.” Yeah, something like what's happening at the border. Speaking of what's going on down there....

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    Over 100 Migrant Mothers And Children Sue Trump Administration Over Virtual Asylum Ban

    “What we’re challenging is the haphazard lack of legal procedure. There’s no rhyme or reason to it,” the plaintiffs’ attorney said.

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    GOP Senators Call For Response To Saudi Attack, Pointing Finger At Iran

    “If it’s very clearly a smoking gun, I don’t think you can have something that just goes unanswered,” Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) said Tuesday. Well, let the Saudis do the answering, the U.S. military is NOT their private army to use as cannon fodder.

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    Laura Ingraham Trolls Sean Hannity On Live TV: ‘Is That The White House Speaking, Or You?’

    The Fox News hosts have a passive-aggressive exchange over Trump coverage. Oh, this is hilarious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    That approach is more realpolitik than pro-life, to be honest.

    What specifically articulated immigration policy are you advocating for?
    The one you obviously paid no attention to last week that was being discussed in a Congressional hearing.



    “In my point of view, I think that deporting sick kids like me, it will be a legal homicide,” Sanchez, 16, told lawmakers on Wednesday.
    So, yeah, GREAT PRO-LIFE PARTY YOU GOT THERE, Mets. Keep fretting about zygotes while your party gets actual children killed.
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