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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman View Post
    he’s not a capitalist huh? So he must have hated the $2 million he made on book deals. **** that must have made him physically ill. Poor Bernie. Seriously, this all or nothing is something you’d expect from Trump and co.

    In the words of the late great Obi-Wan Kenobi, “Only a Sith deals in absolutes!”
    I'm no great fan of Sanders but I feel this comment needs to be addressed.
    In a comparison of wealth among U.S legislators that $2 Million in Bernie's pocket doesn't even put him in the top 50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    There's something we probably ought to talk over.
    While the state legislator in question is also constitutionally ineligible to be President, I suspect most people would feel they don't have the resume for the office.

    There are two problems with electing someone to the White House who just started serving in minor office. The first is that there's going to be a lot that they don't know about national issues, and they might also not know what they don't know. The second is that they may end up changing their views in very significant ways through the process of serving their constituents, and realizing that certain things they advocated for might not be great policies.

    Quote Originally Posted by JDogindy View Post
    Yeah, you gotta be 35 years old minimum (although people prefer their candidates older for, you know, experience?), a US citizen (meaning American Samoans can't run as they are US nationals), and have no felonies. There tend to be other prerequisites, but those are the main ones.
    I remember an argument that the age minimum basically served as a way to restrict the power of the military and elite families, since the understanding would be that the only person who can get the name recognition to be a plausible presidential candidate under the age of 35 would have to be either a war hero or a scion from a very connected family for whom an elected position could be seen as an inheritance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    Because here's the dirty little secret, he knows that no matter who wins the nomination whether it's him or someone as center as Biden, they are going to be labled a Socialist. Obama was called a socialist. You're either going to embrace the word and gain some benefits of it, or you're going to spend all your time running from it and still getting labled it. I've said many times I support Warren. But she's 100% going to get called a socialist if she gets the nom and it's either going to be about her trying to walk everything back to get more center, or she's going to try to embrace the support she gets from more left wing policies.

    That's why I think a Biden or Buttegieg will have a much harder road. They'll be attacked from both ends.
    It is much easier to label someone a socialist if they agree with the description.

    Obama was labelled a socialist. Many Democrats and independents disagreed. He won the White House twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theleviathan View Post
    But part of the argument for capitalism is that the prosperity and competitiveness aids all of humanity. It leads to more innovation, risk taking, and a variety of other aspects that have demonstrably improved humanities quality of life. It's not perfect, but it's not irrelevant either. Slowing that in the name of more fairness has not proven to break capitalism. The two can co-exist are are currently co-existing, imperfect as it may be to some. Socialism, on the other hand, has yet to show it can exist in the world with progressivism. I don't think I can overstate that last point.

    I'd like to see what evidence there is of a slow moving trainwreck also.
    Pretty much. Capitalism is imperfect, but it beats the alternatives in terms of improving quality of living.
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    Threat against Canada's Trudeau 'upsetting' and 'troubling', say rivals

    OTTAWA (Reuters) - The main rivals to Canada’s Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said a threat that forced him to wear a bulletproof vest at a campaign rally on Saturday was a concerning sign for the country’s democracy ahead of the Oct. 21 federal election.

    Trudeau arrived 90 minutes late to a rally outside of Toronto wearing bulky protection under his shirt, a Reuters witness said, after he had received a security threat, Canadian Broadcasting Corp. reported.
    It’s “very upsetting to hear that Justin Trudeau had to wear a bulletproof vest tonight at a campaign event,” Andrew Scheer, leader of the Conservative Party, said late on Saturday. “Threats of violence against political leaders have absolutely no place in our democracy.”

    Scheer is Trudeau’s main rival ahead of the vote, and the two are in a statistical tie nationally, according to polls. But the left-leaning New Democrats (NDP) are gaining and could end up with the balance of power.
    “Any threat made against Justin Trudeau, or any leader, is troubling to all of us. No matter how you vote or believe, no one should face threats of violence,” NDP leader Jagmeet Singh said.
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    CNN projects Gov. John Bel Edwards forced into runoff in Louisiana

    Washington (CNN)Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards has been forced into a runoff election in his bid for reelection, where he will face Republican businessman Eddie Rispone, CNN projected Saturday.

    Edwards was the top vote getter but will fall short of the 50% threshold needed to avoid the runoff. Rispone, one of two major Republicans in the race, garnered the second biggest amount of votes.
    Edwards is the only statewide elected Democrat in Louisiana. Despite Louisiana's Republican lean, polling and other factors suggested Edwards had a decent shot of being reelected.

    He faced off against opponents from both political parties in Saturday's gubernatorial primary, in which all candidates, regardless of party affiliation, ran against each other.

    President Donald Trump on Friday went to Louisiana -- a state he won by 20 points in 2016 -- to boost two Republican candidates in the race. Both Republican candidates -- Rispone and Rep. Ralph Abraham -- joined Trump onstage during the rally. Trump didn't endorse one Republican over the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadH View Post
    I'm no great fan of Sanders but I feel this comment needs to be addressed.
    In a comparison of wealth among U.S legislators that $2 Million in Bernie's pocket doesn't even put him in the top 50.
    That might not even put him in the top 50 among just the Senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robotman View Post
    he’s not a capitalist huh? So he must have hated the $2 million he made on book deals. **** that must have made him physically ill. Poor Bernie. Seriously, this all or nothing is something you’d expect from Trump and co.

    In the words of the late great Obi-Wan Kenobi, “Only a Sith deals in absolutes!”
    I like the oblivious irony of using a word like "only" to speak of absolutes of someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    While the state legislator in question is also constitutionally ineligible to be President, I suspect most people would feel they don't have the resume for the office.
    Three words:
    Donald Muthafuckin' Trump.

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    This will be Trump's legacy


    Disaster is unfolding in Syria as videos emerge of US allies being slaughtered and hundreds of ISIS prisoners escape during airstrikes

    And the GOP thought they had problem's with Obama's Mideast policies. We'll see if there are more defections on the GOP side of the aisle but I don't see many forthcoming.

    US preparing to pull out it's remaining troops from Syria

    • Defense Secretary Mark Esper said the US is "preparing to evacuate" its remaining 1,000 troops in northern Syria, as per a Saturday night authorization for "deliberate withdrawal" by President Donald Trump.
    • Esper said during Sunday's "Face the Nation" segment on CBS News that the US national security team learned in the past 24 hours that Turkish forces will expand their attack further south and west than originally planned.
    • He also said that Kurdish forces are looking to work with Syrians and Russians to counter-attack against Turkish forces in the north, and that American forces could be caught in the crosshairs.
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    What a shame, Iron Maiden... And what a disaster. We should all support strongly the Rojava.
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    I mean if a single US soldier dies it gives Trump enough reason to immediately attack Turkey which is an easy out

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetengine View Post
    I mean if a single US soldier dies it gives Trump enough reason to immediately attack Turkey which is an easy out
    It would fit Trump's pattern of creating crises he then claims to have solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquirrelMan View Post
    Three words:
    Donald Muthafuckin' Trump.
    The simpler response is to ask if you believe he is a good President, and there should be more Presidents like him? If not, his election isn't really an argument in favor of having people with limited experience in the White House. He also didn't win a majority of the vote, so his election isn't really an argument for this being an effective way to win the White House, much less govern.

    Trump has also probably amassed forms of experience different from the thousands of people in the United States who have been state legislators for at least two years (a benchmark Lee J Carter doesn't even meet at this point.) He ran a major business and has been involved in politics in weird ways (the documentary Get Me Roger Stone on Netflix suggests he basically kneecapped the Reform party and the independent presidential campaign of Pat Buchanan, which helped national Republicans avoid vote-splitting) so there is also a potential argument that someone else with similar experiences could be a good President, just not him.

    On experience, I don't think there should be any legal restrictions on who gets to run for President. This should be a decision left up to the voters. I thought Richard Ojeda (a former army major/ West Virginia State Senator who launched a presidential campaign shortly after losing a congressional race) had a terrible resume for a presidential candidate, but it was fine that he was allowed to make his case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    The simpler response is to ask if you believe he is a good President, and there should be more Presidents like him?
    Of course not.
    But there will be more like him.
    Because of your party and his base.

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